NC Bass kill

[Chesapeake Bill]

Not soon enough, Makai...not soon enough. Everone forgets we live in one big glass house...

[Islander77]

BAd science is why quotas are increased?? I suppose bad science is why nmfs owes my old man almost 30 grand and confiscated 2 tuna completely illegally from him.. bad science leads to paper shredding ... cause rec guys are godly and do no damage.. And honest fisherman the minority??? What are you smokin and please do SHARE.. your as high as a kite on that one .. Sneaking fish you try it .. landin over weight.. you try it.. DOCKSIDE MONITORS.. WATCH VESSEL UNLOAD AND ESCORT FISH TO A FEDERAL FISH DEALER... try again.. Sorry your bash the commercial guys propaganda dont work with me to much time in it... Now on the other hand ya wanna talk bass ok cool lets go .. The state of Mass gives a comm lisence to any resident ya wanna talk out side the eez buddy .. Half your state quota this year was more then three miles out.. people abusing the system FLAGRANTLY in MASS I witnessed it while fishing legal.. oh wait these are not real comm guys tho they are mostly construction guys or what have ya supplementing income.. so really rec guys makin a buck... no I was in refference to the industry on a whole gillnettin in particular.. which for monk has nothing to do with bass.. Now seems to be alot of pilgrams are comm bass guys in your state though..

BUT NOW MAKE SURE YOU DONT BLAME:
1) States that give cracker jack licenses
2) the guys yes pluraul comin in with 90 bass per boat in MASS
3) the fleet of non english speakers killing schoolies like they are no big deal
4) the rest of teh crowd at the end of the jetty involved in bad fishin practice
5) BAD INFO.. yea I said it.. you realize your science is wrong in the wrong direction correct??? they under tally bio mass.. oh wait they know it all so really thats a high of whats there.. Yea ok ..
6) REC guys cause yall do nothing wrong..


On that note Im done. Like I said I can go back and forth all day. I know THE TRUTH from my side being a regulated and honest Comm guy.. ya cant lie anymore yall dont get it.. And sadly enough its a waste of my breath.. I just hop esome day theh goverment takes up residence in your respective colons for the industry or industries you work in like me...Then you will truly know what it feels like..

" The most dangerous thing to any industry is a scientist with an agenda." A quote from the movie truth by Brian Loftes..

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Islander77

BAd science is why quotas are increased?? I suppose bad science is why nmfs owes my old man almost 30 grand and confiscated 2 tuna completely illegally from him.. bad science leads to paper shredding ... cause rec guys are godly and do no damage.. And honest fisherman the minority??? What are you smokin and please do SHARE.. your as high as a kite on that one .. Sneaking fish you try it .. landin over weight.. you try it.. DOCKSIDE MONITORS.. WATCH VESSEL UNLOAD AND ESCORT FISH TO A FEDERAL FISH DEALER... try again.. Sorry your bash the commercial guys propaganda dont work with me to much time in it... Now on the other hand ya wanna talk bass ok cool lets go .. The state of Mass gives a comm lisence to any resident ya wanna talk out side the eez buddy .. Half your state quota this year was more then three miles out.. people abusing the system FLAGRANTLY in MASS I witnessed it while fishing legal.. oh wait these are not real comm guys tho they are mostly construction guys or what have ya supplementing income.. so really rec guys makin a buck... no I was in refference to the industry on a whole gillnettin in particular.. which for monk has nothing to do with bass.. Now seems to be alot of pilgrams are comm bass guys in your state though..

BUT NOW MAKE SURE YOU DONT BLAME:
1) States that give cracker jack licenses
2) the guys yes pluraul comin in with 90 bass per boat in MASS
3) the fleet of non english speakers killing schoolies like they are no big deal
4) the rest of teh crowd at the end of the jetty involved in bad fishin practice
5) BAD INFO.. yea I said it.. you realize your science is wrong in the wrong direction correct??? they under tally bio mass.. oh wait they know it all so really thats a high of whats there.. Yea ok ..
6) REC guys cause yall do nothing wrong..

Pretty much all of the above reaffirms my comments. The commercial regulatory system is broken and exploited. You see it and, from the sounds of it, accept that it is an issue. So close it down.

With regards to my "anecdotal evidence" in terms of how comm guys scam the system and how you somehow think it is impossible, how about the major sting operation that broke up the poaching cartel in MD. If it's so impossible, how'd they get away with it?
How about the Mass guy that was arrested and had his boat impounded due to the hidden compartment where he stored poached fish above the limit?
How about the commercial boat out of NC last year that was boarded by the Coast Guard in the EEZ significantly over their limit?

On that note Im done. Like I said I can go back and forth all day. I know THE TRUTH from my side being a regulated and honest Comm guy.. ya cant lie anymore yall dont get it.. And sadly enough its a waste of my breath.. I just hop esome day theh goverment takes up residence in your respective colons for the industry or industries you work in like me...Then you will truly know what it feels like..

" The most dangerous thing to any industry is a scientist with an agenda." A quote from the movie truth by Brian Loftes..

You're welcome to hope the government meddles in my industry, because they do. As a business owner, the government intrudes in my way of life every single day so don't expect sympathy from me when it comes to dealing with the government.

[Islander77]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Pretty much all of the above reaffirms my comments. The commercial regulatory system is broken and exploited. You see it and, from the sounds of it, accept that it is an issue. So close it down.

With regards to my "anecdotal evidence" in terms of how comm guys scam the system and how you somehow think it is impossible, how about the major sting operation that broke up the poaching cartel in MD. If it's so impossible, how'd they get away with it?
How about the Mass guy that was arrested and had his boat impounded due to the hidden compartment where he stored poached fish above the limit?
How about the commercial boat out of NC last year that was boarded by the Coast Guard in the EEZ significantly over their limit?



You're welcome to hope the government meddles in my industry, because they do. As a business owner, the government intrudes in my way of life every single day so don't expect sympathy from me when it comes to dealing with the government.

Well share the wealth with the blame.. and unless you own a tr#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& company or a fishing company ... Then you may think you know what the government can do.. you have seen nithing of it... As far as the gross neglagence of the enforcement to do their jobs??The stin in MD was what year? The guy in mass stste only.. The coast guard bordin over the eez?? should of been a team of NMFS cops.. You have your opinion and to think I accept something cause I witnessed it, Is as lusacris as the regulations are now.. The regulatory process is "broken" DUE TO BAD SCIENCE.. And for the record the increase in catch dont show up in MOST fisheries..

[MikeToole]

When your taking the time to write to the NC regulators you may want to take the time to also write to the Mass regulators. The Mass commercial quota is much larger then NC and the Northeast trawlers and draggers are also killing fish and throwing them overboard. There not culling their just throwing them over because they can't keep any. Then there is that license to steal Mass calls a commercial license that many recreational fisherman use to get around the two fish limit.

Not trying to be a jerk. Just that we need to take a good look at what is happening up here in our own back yard. Sure what is happening down in NC is a disgrace but things up here aren't much better.

[Islander77]

Originally Posted by MikeToole

When your taking the time to write to the NC regulators you may want to take the time to also write to the Mass regulators. The Mass commercial quota is much larger then NC and the Northeast trawlers and draggers are also killing fish and throwing them overboard. There not culling their just throwing them over because they can't keep any. Then there is that license to steal Mass calls a commercial license that many recreational fisherman use to get around the two fish limit.

Not trying to be a jerk. Just that we need to take a good look at what is happening up here in our own back yard. Sure what is happening down in NC is a disgrace but things up here aren't much better.

Thannks Mike that was my whole point.. But got lost defending my heritage...