I don't hear many similarities between the Police and Sublime, I know you're going to say they were heavily influeced by Reggae and I will agree with you, but to my ear the similarities stop there. I will say that I don't own all of the Police releases but I think that comparison is a bit of a stretch. I love the Outlandos D'Amor album though and many other songs, I was once obsessed with learning Message in a Bottle on the guitar and it's still something I warm up with.
I'm not giving Sublime credit for bringing Reggae to the mainstream table, Clapton may have done that before the Police did, I don't know the dates off the top of my head. But outside of some indy, underground groups from the 1980s and with a little help from the Chili Peppers and maybe Fishbone, Sublime was the first band (That I know of) that brought the mixture of rap, raggae, punk rock and sampling to the ears of most people.
This is kind of a dumb argument... Sublime had a hand in the creation of the type of music that many of the groups of today are butchering... so did the unnamed bands you heard back when I was 9. But if you want to get crazy, The Beatles played a hand, so did Bob Marley and the guy who invented the guitar. Hell, the one-celled organsim that mutated to eventually become a human being had a hand in this too.
-Dave
just discussing, not arguing. nothin more.
I look at the chili peppers as taking alt/punk and bringing in funk
the police (before they were mainstream) and adding alt/punk/reggae
Not talking clapton, marley , they werent based in punk but the police and sublime are. the police were the first I've ever heard that went from reggae to punk in one tune. Both bands are rooted in punk and both go between rock and reggae. The Police also used the "c" word in a popular song which I always thought was ballsy.
There became a time in the 80s and 90s when mixing styles was very cool and something Im a big fan of. the beastie boys were major influences in this.
those unnamed bands I listened to when you were 9 were very popular bands like Fishbone, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Specials, Toasters. Locally you had the Jungle Dogs in Narragansett, Bim Skala Bim (Boston?)
If you havent heard Fishbone, rush out and buy their first 4 albums. One of my favorite bands of all time.
I really, really, really like Sublime. I wished I had paid more attention when they came out but listen a lot now.
just discussing, not arguing. nothin more.
I look at the chili peppers as taking alt/punk and bringing in funk
the police (before they were mainstream) and adding alt/punk/reggae
Not talking clapton, marley , they werent based in punk but the police and sublime are. the police were the first I've ever heard that went from reggae to punk in one tune. Both bands are rooted in punk and both go between rock and reggae. The Police also used the "c" word in a popular song which I always thought was ballsy.
There became a time in the 80s and 90s when mixing styles was very cool and something Im a big fan of. the beastie boys were major influences in this.
those unnamed bands I listened to when you were 9 were very popular bands like Fishbone, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Specials, Toasters. Locally you had the Jungle Dogs in Narragansett, Bim Skala Bim (Boston?)
If you havent heard Fishbone, rush out and buy their first 4 albums. One of my favorite bands of all time.
I really, really, really like Sublime. I wished I had paid more attention when they came out but listen a lot now.
Gotcha, I was just thinking that using the word "argument" was a poor choice, I meant debate. I have heard Fishbone, but I haven't heard a lot. I'll go check them out. I am not a fan of the Bostones, just not my personal cup of tea. The saddest thing about sublime is that Bradley OD'd a few months before their major lable debut, he never even knew how famous they became. The stuff I really like is from 1990 to 1992 not nearly as polished but they also had free reign (or it seems like they did) as to what samples they could use and how creative they wanted to be, listen to the Toots and Mayalls cover above for the porn samples as an example. There are a few others I will try and dig them up on YouTube.
-Dave
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I think Sublime is much more ska/punk than reggae influenced. They were coming up around the SoCal scene about the same time as No Doubt in the early 90's. And the Mighty Bosstones were pretty big on the East coast around the same time. Those bands were most likely influenced by bands like the Specials and Madness in the 70's.
And RIJIMMY, you're right about Bim Skala Bim being from Boston. I saw them a few times at places like the Middle East and The Paradise.
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
You rule Tagger ...Between getting captured on film staring at a model's butt and now rocking the Sublime, I'm gonna nominate you for S-B man of the year...we gotta hang out more.
Check out King's X too...you might like em.
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
Here's a good one. They used to play this a lot live. Cool little rap at about the 1:54 mark of the song.
Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
Another thing I like about Sublime the bass is reall kicking and he plays with his fingers .. There's so many drug referances and drinking 40's and swearing in thier songs like they could care less about being politicly correct. or making radio hits . not to mention subject matter in thier songs .. So unlike alot of the well polished acts ,,, the anti boy band group for sure ..
...Between getting captured on film staring at a model's butt and now rocking the Sublime, I'm gonna nominate you for S-B man of the year...we gotta hang out more. 
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