Global Warming ?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Lets follow that logic.
it's 48deg at my house right now, 8-9 deg above average.
guess you must believe in it now, at least until it snows again...

you just pulled an Al Gore...that is so funny!

One thin September soon

A floating continent disappears

In midnight sun


Vapors rise as

Fever settles on an acid sea

Neptune's bones dissolve


Snow glides from the mountain

Ice fathers floods for a season

A hard rain comes quickly


Then dirt is parched

Kindling is placed in the forest

For the lightning's celebration


Unknown creatures

Take their leave, unmourned

Horsemen ready their stirrups


Passion seeks heroes and friends

The bell of the city

On the hill is rung


The shepherd cries

The hour of choosing has arrived

Here are your tools

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

you just pulled an Al Gore...that is so funny!

No, actually that would be pulling a "Rush Limbaugh."

-spence

[justplugit]

The Ozone layer is healing itself according to the 2010 UN Scientific Assessment
of Ozone Depletion.
"The Earth's upper ozone layer has stopped thinning and could be
restored by mid-century."

There are as many scientists that don't believe in Global Warming is man made as do.

I'm sure man made pollution may have something to do with it, but
to depend on a Green Job Program to save the world and our economy
is nothing but Pie in the Sky.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by justplugit

The Ozone layer is healing itself according to the 2010 UN Scientific Assessment
of Ozone Depletion. "The Earth's upper ozone layer has stopped thinning and could be restored by mid-century."

great, but that is not a result of CO2, thats the result of banning CFC's

Originally Posted by justplugit

There are as many scientists that don't believe in Global Warming is man made as do.

Is this your own poll of scientists?

My point was, it's 50deg today, 01/2011. if I used the 'deniers' logic, then global warming is here. I don't use this as an argument, just making a point on the 'it snowed in December, climate change isn't real' argument

[buckman]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

great, but that is not a result of CO2, thats the result of banning CFC's

Isn't the chemical that replaced CFC's one of the leading causes of
" Global Warming" ?

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Isn't the chemical that replaced CFC's one of the leading causes of
" Global Warming" ?

Never heard that. I believe HFC's are about ten times weaker than CFC's in regards to global warming, and 50 times weaker in regards to ozone depletion.

Hey wasn't the ozone hole a big scam as well???
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[striperman36]

Worester's high of 58 today tied the all time record set in 1892.z

No other records than Salty's ranting about Barry's vacation costs were tied or broken today.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Never heard that. I believe HFC's are about ten times weaker than CFC's in regards to global warming, and 50 times weaker in regards to ozone depletion.

Hey wasn't the ozone hole a big scam as well???
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From Wikipedia...
The interim replacements for CFCs are hydrochlorofluorocarbons (HCFCs), which deplete stratospheric ozone, but to a much lesser extent than CFCs.[10] Ultimately, hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) will replace HCFCs with essentially no ozone destruction (although all three groups of halocarbons are powerful greenhouse gases).

I don't know if it was a scam but do you know it was not?

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

great, but that is not a result of CO2, thats the result of banning CFC's

Is this your own poll of scientists?

My point was, it's 50deg today, 01/2011. if I used the 'deniers' logic, then global warming is here. I don't use this as an argument, just making a point on the 'it snowed in December, climate change isn't real' argument

No Poll, just random reading over a period of time on the controversy.

I agree one day, month, year, or even a decade don't prove it either way.
I am saying to think that a massive Green Jobs Program to save the world
and produce a new economy is pie in the sky thinking.

No matter what we do China and the emerging third world countries who are
doing most of the manufacturing polution are not going to adhere to
strict standards or go to the expense.

[striperman36]

2010 was the warmest year on record for BOS with a daily avg temp of 53.8 beating the 53.6 set in 1949 and 1953.

NWS has been recording temps in BOS since 1872

[Raven]

it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that we have deforested
a large percentage of the planet for wood or expansion of cities

that we have covered it in black asphalt and stone or metal buildings

or covered it with millions of houses with tar covered black roofs

the black death or dust bowl days is the largest example of man made climate change where we altered the prairie by decimating the buffalo herds to terminate the Native American food supply and starve them out...

can we shift it back...of course
....by starting thousands of tree farms and re planting the trees we took away in areas where no trees now grow by the millions and millions

it's being done NOW but on to small and to slow a scale.