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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Which is it Spence? Is he someone who can speak eloquently and brilliantly on the political issues? Or is he someone who cannot effectively explain political issues to tens of millions of Americans?

You're mixing issues here.

As a campaigner, Obama did a very good job of articulating his individual positions on policy...this isn't the same as an Administration controlling a complex political dialogue that influences public opinion.

Spence, you are one of those folks who have no limit to how far backwards you will bend over to make up excuses for this guy. He's never wrong, and nothing is ever his fault.

Clearly then you don't read very well. You just quoted me being critical of Obama and then in almost the same breadth accuse me of fealty.

-spence

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

You're mixing issues here.

As a campaigner, Obama did a very good job of articulating his individual positions on policy...this isn't the same as an Administration controlling a complex political dialogue that influences public opinion.

-spence

If he said what he meant, and meant what he said in his campaign,
he shouldn't have a problem in his political dialogue now.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

You're mixing issues here.

As a campaigner, Obama did a very good job of articulating his individual positions on policy...this isn't the same as an Administration controlling a complex political dialogue that influences public opinion.



Clearly then you don't read very well. You just quoted me being critical of Obama and then in almost the same breadth accuse me of fealty.

-spence

The GOP wins by historic margins, and your "criticism" of Obama is NOT that his agenda was rejected, but that he didn't do a good enough job articulating the "value", as you put it, of his policies.

So it's not that his agenda is ruinous and destructive, no no, it cannot be that. It has to be that tens of millions of regular Americans just aren't sophisticated enough to know what's really good for us.

Spence, can I ask you somehting? Are you aware of what's happening with the European economies right now? Given that those economies are all on the edge of collapse, why should I buy into Obama's view that a huge federal government, funded by European-like tax rates, is the way to prosperity? If that sort of western european socialism is failing everywhere, how is it going to work here?

Or am I wrong? If Obama's view of Utopia is not similar to western European socialism, how is it different?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The GOP wins by historic margins, and your "criticism" of Obama is NOT that his agenda was rejected, but that he didn't do a good enough job articulating the "value", as you put it, of his policies. yes, when dems lose it's because the idiots out there couldn't understand what they were trying to do for them, to speak in 4th grade language would make more sense

So it's not that his agenda is ruinous and destructive, no no, it cannot be that. no, because he's so brilliant and experienced and articulate It has to be that tens of millions of regular Americans just aren't sophisticated enough to know what's really good for us. correct

Spence, can I ask you somehting? Are you aware of what's happening with the European economies right now? it's America's fault and Obama will fix it with a bailout Given that those economies are all on the edge of collapse, why should I buy into Obama's view that a huge federal government, funded by European-like tax rates, is the way to prosperity? Because a collapsing socialism requires the expansion of socialism, it eats away like a parasite on a host till the host is dead then it looks for another...the socialists solution for failing socialism is to make it bigger, everyone must be forced to join the party(event) If that sort of western european socialism is failing everywhere, how is it going to work here? our socialists are smarter...they're "progressive"

Or am I wrong? If Obama's view of Utopia is not similar to western European socialism, how is it different? that's the OLD socialism...we have neo(Ivy League)- socialists

more money/resources to work with here, we are the last thing standing in the way of Global Governance/Taxation and Regulation by a supreme governing body and world utopian socialism for the little people...ask Soros

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