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10-28-2010, 11:58 AM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
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I own both Van Staal and Zeebaas both reels are worth the price IMO
The drag on the ZB is unbelievable and so smooth
That new entry level reel that VS has coming out in December is a great reel
and I will be buying one for kayak fishing
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey 
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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10-28-2010, 12:13 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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The one thing that the Torque has going for it--having seen photos of the guts of the reel--is that it appears to be a very simple design, and about as idiot-proof a reel as there is for servicing yourself.
If you decide to self-service a VS, there's a ticking time bomb that can lock up your reel if you're not careful---making absolutely sure that the grommet on the main gear is seated inside the traverse block. If this slips out as you're reassembling the side plate, the reel totally locks up.
Looking at the schematics of a ZB, Stella or even a Saltiga---it's scary. Especially the Stella.
The Torque isn't any more complicated inside than a Slammer, and almost as simple as an old 700 series Spinfisher. Plus, you can get to the internals without having to partially remove the rotor and main shaft--something that you can't do with any Japanese reel except the Shimano Saragossa.
As far as "surf vs boat" reels--IMO it's nonsense for 95% of fishermen. But the Torque will be out in manual-pickup versions eventually.
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10-28-2010, 12:18 PM
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Night Stalker
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ............
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I know you said you want feedback on the Penn reel but I don't think you will get much because everyone is too afraid of it.
If you really like fishing a bail I thik you should give serious consideration to the Saltiga 4500z if you're willing to pay what a Tourque costs.
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10-28-2010, 12:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
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I would buy whatever you are comfortable with,it will make you happy.
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10-28-2010, 12:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kingston, Ma
Posts: 2,294
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Quote:
Originally Posted by luds
I know you said you want feedback on the Penn reel but I don't think you will get much because everyone is too afraid of it.
If you really like fishing a bail I thik you should give serious consideration to the Saltiga 4500z if you're willing to pay what a Tourque costs.
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HOLY SH!T!
I didn't realize they were over 500 beans!!!! For a PENN???!!!!
An UNPROVEN reel????!!!!!!
Yeah, like Luds says, if you gonna shell out those many clams, the Staltigas are a pretty dam fine reel too. I forgot about them as an alternative. 2 of my fishin partners have/ like them though........ |
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11-02-2010, 03:59 PM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redlite
HOLY SH!T!
I didn't realize they were over 500 beans!!!! For a PENN???!!!!
An UNPROVEN reel????!!!!!!
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Not that many beans in the can....... |
Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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10-28-2010, 12:24 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
Posts: 5,737
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I'd wait to hear some feedback from people you trust on the Penn before dropping that kind of money. The nice thing about the VS and ZB's is that the companies have worked the bugs out, for the most part. I was always A Shimano and Okuma guy once I got sick of having Penns fixed or replaced. I finally I bit the bullet and got a ZB this year because I found a good deal on a USA made model. No regrets at all. I'm actually wondering why I didn't do it sooner.
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Originally Posted by tattoobob
That new entry level reel that VS has coming out in December is a great reel
and I will be buying one for kayak fishing
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Bob, have you seen the new $400 VS in person? I've only seen it in the OTW article, but am intrigued for the yak and the boat. |
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10-28-2010, 02:05 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishbones
Bob, have you seen the new $400 VS in person? I've only seen it in the OTW article, but am intrigued for the yak and the boat.
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Yes I held it and played with it for some time at Striperfest |
Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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10-28-2010, 03:32 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kingston, Ma
Posts: 2,294
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tattoobob
Yes I held it and played with it for some time at Striperfest
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I did too....and then someone started banging on the port-a-john door..................game over. |
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10-28-2010, 04:24 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Plymouth
Posts: 176
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redlite
I did too....and then someone started banging on the port-a-john door..................game over.
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10-28-2010, 03:32 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: orange ct
Posts: 2,992
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I too used the Slammers as my go to reel for years and dunked them. I broke them down to get them dried up, tried all different lubes and had the white metal main gear replace a few times. When I was deep wading I always tried to keep it out of the water. Liked a bail.
I figured that since I enjoy surfcasting so much- I would get a better tool- one that I did not have to worry about being under the water. So I live 5 miles from the ZB location- when they were assembling the reels there . Called up and went over there -met Wendy and Tim ( Robs son) super nice to me- and ended up getting a 2.5 with a bail.
Love the reel and especially the drag. Whole other world than the Slammer.
Manual bails do not flip closed on casts anymore. That is ancient history. I do not know why that still gets brought up. Never will happen on a ZB, a bailed VS or a Saltiga. What could happen is that you destroy the bail on a rock . Yes that could happen. But I like a bail-
If you like a bail- stick with the bail. Rob
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10-28-2010, 03:36 PM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
Posts: 4,378
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i saw a Penn Torque the other day and couldn't believe the price. Wow! for that amount of money I would definitely get either a VS or saltiga....
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10-28-2010, 03:41 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,904
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bart
i saw a Penn Torque the other day and couldn't believe the price. Wow! for that amount of money I would definitely get either a VS or saltiga....
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$533.99 at this site
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No boat, back in the suds.  
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10-29-2010, 02:42 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,904
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bart
i saw a Penn Torque the other day and couldn't believe the price. Wow! for that amount of money I would definitely get either a VS or saltiga....
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Bart, how do you know the Penn reel is not just as good a reel as the VS or Saltiga? |
No boat, back in the suds.
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10-29-2010, 07:51 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,409
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
Bart, how do you know the Penn reel is not just as good a reel as the VS or Saltiga?
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He probably doesn't but I'd bet he doesn't want to spend $600 to try it out.  |
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10-29-2010, 12:13 PM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
Posts: 4,378
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
Bart, how do you know the Penn reel is not just as good a reel as the VS or Saltiga?
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I don't know how it compares, but the VS and saltiga are proven warriors. If it was a 704 or 706 i'd say jump all over it. I have a few of them and love them. But from what ppl have been saying about Penn for the last five years or so I wouldn't buy one. Although I have yet to put a lot of hrs into my VS, I know it was a worthwhile investment just on reputation alone... |
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