Obama Care

[Piscator]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

What I've been stating above, and I thought I was clearer, is that the private insurance companies should be applying these surcharges.

This is that part that there may not be a black/white answer to. Is it just the smokers and fat people in your picture album ? Not to be a broken record but what about everyone else: Drinkers, Non-Sun Screen users, heavy labor intensive jobs, modercycle riders, sky jumpers, skiiers, shore fisherman who swim out to remote rocks at night, etc, etc. Where is the line in the sand on who pays higher and where does it end?

[PaulS]

The reason the govern. stepped in originally is b/c there is no incentive for a private business to cover someone that the business will lose money on. I'm guessing that someone with 1 incident of cancer will have a much higher chance of a repeat. The insur. company cannot make enough money on that one person w/o charging a higher rate. Then your going to have sickness/illness that are so expense that if you have it once and are likely of getting it again, no ins. company will cover you. Now you have someone w/no insur. and when they get sick again, they can't pay the bills. Thus, you have guaranteed issue which spreads the cost of JohnnyD's fat people amongst all of us fit, healthy people.

Insur. comp. can deal with guaranteed issue if everyone in the state is required to have coverage. Without people being able to pick and choose if they want coverage, the ins. comp. can't spread the risk amongt all of us. With guarantee issue you don't have to do risk assessment for smokers or fatties - you spread the risk amongst all of us.

[scottw]

this should fix everything...


BALTIMORE -- The Baltimore City Health Department issued its first environmental citation for repeat violations of the city's trans fat ban.

The Health Department issued Healthy Choice, a food facility in the 400 block of Lexington Street, a $100 fine on Thursday.

"It was the second time they were found with a high trans fat level in their ingredients," said Health Department agent Juan Gutierrez.

Officials said that during inspections in July and this month, the facility was found to be using a margarine product with trans fat levels in excess of what the law allows.

The law banning food facilities from serving or selling non-prepackaged food items containing 0.5 grams or more of trans fats went into effect in September 2009.

"While we are pleased with the high rates of compliance we've seen since the ban took effect, we will continue to sanction businesses that repeatedly fail to comply."
- Dr. Oxiris Barbot, Commissioner of Health

"They originally had a margarine that was above 3 grams, actually, which is very high compared to the .5 that is allowed. Then when we came back and they had replaced it, they replaced it with one that was 2 grams, so it still was too high," Gutierrez said

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by PaulS

The reason the govern. stepped in originally is b/c there is no incentive for a private business to cover someone that the business will lose money on.

If that was the reason the Govt stepped in, then why a 3000 page
bill that covers everybody?

Why not a special program or tax credit for those individuals?

They stepped in to take complete control of HC and increase their
power base.