what is this country doing about the other imprisoned hikers?

[RIJIMMY]

Jay Severin, a talk radio host would always make an observation I agree with. A few thousand years ago, being a citizen of Rome meant something, no matter where you went, no one effed with you because it would bring down the wrath of the empire. It used to be the same with the US. Not anymore. We get no respect, why? Cause we have no balls. You do remember the Iran hostage crisis dont you? WHo won that? Not us. I highly doubt these people were spies, yet that is what they are held for. Next time you're abroad and get nabbed for jay walking and wind up in prison, dont look for your country to protect you. its not that we should be free from accountaiblity for any stupid action, but we should be backed up by our government to ensure the rights of our citizens. I look at these hikers as political prisoners. I guess its just me. Didnt the government get heavily involved in the case of that kid in Singapore that was caned? Same thing IMHO.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Didnt the government get heavily involved in the case of that kid in Singapore that was caned? Same thing IMHO.

Kid got what he deserved.....he still got caned, didn't he.

and Espionage is a little more serious than Vandalizing Cars.

Next time you come across a group of cambodians poaching fish....remember in their country its legal and they just didn't know better, so we should be lenient with them....its OK to be ignorant of our laws.....

and I like the way you question somebody's "Pride in America" because we don't want to rush in and save 3 Dumbasses who put themselves in a bad situation.

Call it crazy but Common sense dictates that you don't go to an area of the World that wants to Kill Americans. bad Choice of Vacation spots there....try Disneyworld next time...good wholesome American fun.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Call it crazy but Common sense dictates that you don't go to an area of the World that wants to Kill Americans. bad Choice of Vacation spots there....try Disneyworld next time...good wholesome American fun.

your right, much better to cower in fear and play it safe. (BTW - thats about 60 percent ;of the world)
And I started this thread because Ahmidinjead (sp) was in the the good ole friendly us and we did NOTHING. OOOH, not true ! We walked out on him! Ouch! I bet he was hurt, So a hostile country (likwids words) captures Americans for ESPIONAGE. And most of you think we should do nothing?
If you really think about, with that logic, Daniel Pearl basically got what he deserved, I mean a Jew in Iraqm, during a war, come on, talk about STUPID.
Those wacky muslims, man they crack me up. Hopeful they will be found guilty and stoned to death, that will be a fun show!

And my pride in america comments were directed at likwid, have you ever met someone with so much disdain for this country, err that wasnt middle eastern I mean.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

And my pride in america comments were directed at likwid, have you ever met someone with so much disdain for this country, err that wasnt middle eastern I mean.

Disdain? I'm not the one bitching that "we" haven't done anything about the idiots.

The only disdain I have is for nanny state clowns like you.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by likwid

Disdain? I'm not the one bitching that "we" haven't done anything about the idiots.

The only disdain I have is for nanny state clowns like you.

whatever, you're looking for the government to give everybody and their brother a hand out and a job. Nanny state my a$$.
American needs to show a strong voice to the world and represent its citizens. This is not an individual issue, its a national issue. They're not being held for what they did, but for WHO THEY ARE. American citizens.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

whatever, you're looking for the government to give everybody and their brother a hand out and a job. Nanny state my a$$.
American needs to show a strong voice to the world and represent its citizens. This is not an individual issue, its a national issue. They're not being held for what they did, but for WHO THEY ARE. American citizens.

OK. And if they are there b/c they are idiots, missionaries etc.. I agree, go get them, or work to get them released. Send GWB, Clinton and Carter have already gone and bailed people out from hostile places.

However, if they are there for some nefarious purpose, i.e. my theory, drugs or something then tough %$%$%$%$.

If they are 'spies' then it really is a dicey political issue.

My gut says 1. they (gov't) are doing more than the evil media is reporting
2. the reason these guys/gal were in this region is something not being said....

[likwid]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Next time you're abroad and get nabbed for jay walking and wind up in prison, dont look for your country to protect you.

"Nanny state save meeee! Waaah!"

its not that we should be free from accountaiblity for any stupid action, but we should be backed up by our government to ensure the rights of our citizens.

You go to a foreign country, you abide by their laws. Or is that too hard to understand?

Borders of hostile countries are a bit of a no-brainer....

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by likwid

"Nanny state save meeee! Waaah!"



You go to a foreign country, you abide by their laws. Or is that too hard to understand?

Borders of hostile countries are a bit of a no-brainer....

They're held for espionage. The internet has a dictionary in case that words not in your vocabulary.