my favorite topic - media bias

[RIROCKHOUND]

Wow. I had a typo. I added an extra B. I should know better than hit 'view post' from an ignored poster

She has been a campaigning, bible thumping Christian her entire career (who is cute, 41 and unmarried, claims to adhere to her faith 100%, hence my question if she was a virgin).

I'm not trying to define anything. The point RIJ was making was that the Tea party was a fairly centrist movement, My point back was that she is not a centrist candidate, so it makes it hard for me to view the tea party as a 'centrist' movement when this is who they back.

A good point on Morning Joe this AM before I left the house, and just a comment.

If O'Donnell was a chubby, middle aged, bald, male candidate, who lied in the past about his college experience, had home foreclosures, was pursuing seemingly frivolous lawsuits, who once claimed she couldn't because of her faith, lie to Nazi's about hiding a Jew in her attic, they would not be a viable candidate. Instead we get Palin-light.

Charlie Crist can be whatever he wants, I wouldn't question it, unless he was going around thumping his bible about 'lust' and how we should all act.

I am all for O'Donnell and the like winning the nominations. It certainly will make for an easier election come November

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Wow. I had a typo. I added an extra B. I should know better than hit 'view post' from an ignored poster

If you were a real man you'd admit this was intentional spelling to appear more "fishing man like" rather than a scientist.

It's ok to hang with your peeps, just be yourself.

She has been a campaigning, bible thumping Christian her entire career (who is cute, 41 and unmarried, claims to adhere to her faith 100%, hence my question if she was a virgin).

She does take a nice photo.

I'm not trying to define anything. The point RIJ was making was that the Tea party was a fairly centrist movement, My point back was that she is not a centrist candidate, so it makes it hard for me to view the tea party as a 'centrist' movement when this is who they back.

Like an infant their highest priority it to gain enough weight quickly to remain viable. I think they'll back anyone who will champion the core platform who looks to have a chance at a third party nomination.

A good point on Morning Joe this AM before I left the house, and just a comment.

As you were recharging your Liberatorator-ator.

I've read Joe Scarborough's book and he's no Republican. I don't think he went on a single tirade about the genetic dysfunctions of Liberals.

If O'Donnell was a chubby, middle aged, bald, male candidate, who lied in the past about his college experience, had home foreclosures, was pursuing seemingly frivolous lawsuits, who once claimed she couldn't because of her faith, lie to Nazi's about hiding a Jew in her attic, they would not be a viable candidate. Instead we get Palin-light.

It's shameful how the lamestream media and their robot "Karl Rove" is out attacking this poor woman, just because she's speaking truth to power.

Don't mess with a Mama Grizzly.

-spence

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by scottw

this entire post makes me wonder how you ever got a degree...what is an "ubber" catholic?...just wondering

Besides, without the umlauts that would be "ueber". He is our resident scientist, smarter than many, even if he has moved left over past few years (might have something to do with being married

single tirade about the genetic dysfunctions of Liberals

So in order to be a republican you need to tirade about liberals? Really?

Most people are fairly moderate yet the 20% on the extreme ends are what define the parties. How convenient. So if that's the brush we paint with anyone that votes democratic is a Code Pink, ELF, PETA, Union Thug?

And yeh, she wears 41 pretty well .

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by JohnR

smarter than many,

Not even close, but thanks for the compliment

Originally Posted by JohnR

even if he has moved left over past few years (might have something to do with being married

Not at all, I've actually moved a bit center from my youth, but like many on here, I am not defined by a party, and yes the fringe, unfortunately defines the party.

Lets get back to the original point that the media is call the tea-party right wing, and they are centrist, except for the candidates they support....

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

So in order to be a republican you need to tirade about liberals? Really?

Sorry, should have used an emoticon to indicate sarcasm. It's a good book, a quick read but very accessible...I gave my copy to some guy on an airplane.

Most people are fairly moderate yet the 20% on the extreme ends are what define the parties. How convenient. So if that's the brush we paint with anyone that votes democratic is a Code Pink, ELF, PETA, Union Thug?

I think the conservative punditry has done an excellent job of giving people that impression. Less so when you reverse the picture.

What's interesting is that some studies show less than 20% of Americans would actually self classify themselves as "liberal" while over 50% or would self classify themselves as "conservative". At the same time, voters probably tend to average out in the middle.

This non-linear distribution on the spectrum is often exploited to present a picture which doesn't map to reality.

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

I think the conservative punditry has done an excellent job of giving people that impression. Less so when you reverse the picture.

-spence

I would say "more so" when you reverse the picture. Its exactly how you explain that most view themselves as conservaitves vs how the vote plays out. I believe a very large percentage of the population would agree with what the tea party stands for. But they will dismiss it without question due to the media spoon feeding them.
If O'Donnell is an example of a right wing endorsement by the tp, how many candidiates were supported by the wacky left and won? you'll never know because the media acts as if the wacky left doesnt exist. they define one end (far right) but NEVER the left!

[scottw]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

because the media acts as if the wacky left doesnt exist.

this is because they are in most cases

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I would say "more so" when you reverse the picture. Its exactly how you explain that most view themselves as conservaitves vs how the vote plays out. I believe a very large percentage of the population would agree with what the tea party stands for. But they will dismiss it without question due to the media spoon feeding them.

It illustrates more that liberal and conservative doesn't map 1:1 to democrat and republican.

A large percentage of Americans would stand for what most parties believe in. A clean environment, good schools, strong defense, a balanced budget...who wouldn't want that?

But being a "grass roots" movement you have to take the good with the bad, it's really about the people and not the platform. From what I've heard about both notable Tea Party winners this week, I can't say "personal responsibility" come to mind.

If O'Donnell is an example of a right wing endorsement by the tp, how many candidiates were supported by the wacky left and won? you'll never know because the media acts as if the wacky left doesnt exist. they define one end (far right) but NEVER the left!

The difference here is that you don't have progressives upsetting mainstream Dems. You're trying to compare apples and tangerines.

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

The difference here is that you don't have progressives upsetting mainstream Dems. You're trying to compare apples and tangerines.

-spence

so, when Obama defeated Hillary, it was called out that he was left wing by the MAINSTREAM media? No way! The only ones screaming about his far left voting record was the conservative media and you know......only crazy rednecks listen to them.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

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Charlie Crist can be whatever he wants, I wouldn't question it, unless he was going around thumping his bible about 'lust' and how we should all act.

Crist is married...my liberal customers in NH told me that the Republican Party would never support him for president because he was gay, then he got married...guess I shouldn't listen to them...or maybe he really wanted to be president real bad

if you drop the bible and add chest and replace lust with salt, energy, healthcare, principes and ideals intermingled, race, fat, exercise, taxes, evil bankers and corporations, lightbulbs, tolerance, activism, and on and on...you have the Obama's.... guess it's ok to thump the liberalism/progressivism bible

the bible thumper can't force you to do anything you don't want to do

but the Obama thumpers sure can