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08-25-2010, 09:29 PM
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The guys who win! I guess its the best bait.... Hard to believe. The only reason this came about was because I was hitting the surf this evening and realized many lobsters had washed up on the beach and died. I figure its worth a shot.
Last edited by FISHING_FOOL; 08-26-2010 at 05:46 PM..
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08-26-2010, 01:58 PM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Originally Posted by FISHING_FOOL
The guys who win! I guess its the best bait.... Hard to believe. The only reason this came about was because I was hitting the surf this evening and realized many lobsters had washed up on the beach and died. I took the tails :-) I guess this happens once every 10 years or so in certain places and there are no laws governing picking up lobsters on the beach! I figure its worth a shot.
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Your not suppose to pick those lobsters up off the beach without a license, same with the clams that wash up. uh oh!
I have been fishing the derby since 1973 more often than not, and every year except one since 1980 and have never heard of lobsters being used by a winner. We have a few winners here. Maybe they can chime in on this statement.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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08-26-2010, 02:09 PM
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Location: RI
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I just spent about an hour and a half looking.. Nothing.. I'd be willing to bet you have to keep the receipts and they must be legal size.. Look on the bright side.. Probably won't have to worry about blues!
and on a side note... I DID find that the bastages did close the commercial spiny dogfish season  and the tog regs have changed.
http://www.dem.ri.gov/programs/bnatr...s/082010p7.pdf
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08-27-2010, 01:28 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swimmer
Your not suppose to pick those lobsters up off the beach without a license, same with the clams that wash up. uh oh!
I have been fishing the derby since 1973 more often than not, and every year except one since 1980 and have never heard of lobsters being used by a winner. We have a few winners here. Maybe they can chime in on this statement.
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Actually, you can't pick them off the beach at all, with or without a license--at least in Massachusetts. The only legal way of harvesting lobsters in Massachusetts is by potting, or by free diving. Free diving--more properly called free-handing--includes wading and harvesting them by hand--while they're in the water. You can't even legally keep one if you catch it on a hook and line. Pots have to include an escape vent.
And lobsters can't be harvested by any method at night.
Surf clams can be harvested without a license in certain towns--one would have to check the local shellfishing regs. No permit is needed to take a bushel of sea clams a day in Bourne, for example. All surf clams in Massachusetts have to have a minimum 5" shell length to be taken, even where no permit is needed. The state sets the individual species size limits for shellfish, and the towns regulate permitting and seasons.
Last edited by Mike P; 08-27-2010 at 01:40 PM..
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-26-2010, 03:44 PM
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Location: Newtown, CT
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Originally Posted by FISHING_FOOL
I guess this happens once every 10 years or so in certain places and there are no laws governing picking up lobsters on the beach!
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You guess wrong there are laws in every state governing picking up lobsters on the beach and I'll bet you broke a few. Good thing the clam cops weren't around.
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08-26-2010, 04:12 PM
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Location: Marshfield, Ma
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Geez, now fishing fool is a lobster poacher for picking one up off the beach. You're in trouble now breaking the law  .
I was jigging for bait 2 weeks ago and caught one, had it in possesion for about 30 seconds but I let him go.......
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08-26-2010, 07:33 PM
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Location: Northport,NY
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Originally Posted by Piscator
Geez, now fishing fool is a lobster poacher for picking one up off the beach. You're in trouble now breaking the law  .
I was jigging for bait 2 weeks ago and caught one, had it in possesion for about 30 seconds but I let him go.......
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Is that John from CHiPs? They have lobster in los Angeles?
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08-26-2010, 05:08 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: On the ocean
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Originally Posted by MakoMike
You guess wrong there are laws in every state governing picking up lobsters on the beach and I'll bet you broke a few. Good thing the clam cops weren't around.
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Sure.... you post the law and I believe you. The last time they were up on the beach thick people were everywhere picking them up. My father in-law (retired police office, also the clam cop locally) was there picking them up and spoke with an EPO officer who was there watching and the EPO said there is nothing wrong with it..... Anyone who thinks its illegal should find the law!!
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08-26-2010, 05:55 PM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Originally Posted by FISHING_FOOL
Sure.... you post the law and I believe you. The last time they were up on the beach thick people were everywhere picking them up. My father in-law (retired police office, also the clam cop locally) was there picking them up and spoke with an EPO officer who was there watching and the EPO said there is nothing wrong with it..... Anyone who thinks its illegal should find the law!!
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I know for a fact in Marshfield/Brant Rock in recent history after storms the law went down to the beach and if I remember correctly they even had a few troopers there because so many people drove to the beach to grab what they could, making people put everything back in the water. That included quahogs, steamers, lobsters and whatnot. I have a buddy who lives right there and saw it happen.
Nothing that happens in Hull would surprise me, nothing. It would not surpise that the Hull Warden wouldn't know or would not bother to enforce the regs.
What makes you thinks because you didn't have to swim for it, trap it, or dig for it that you don't need a permit. Oh the storm gave it to me I didn't have to go to the town hall to get a permit for these.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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08-28-2010, 02:57 PM
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zziplex lover
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: upper cape cod, MA
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lobsters as bait........
I would like to know the MA reg. that prevents you from using legal/ legally caught lobsters for bait???? A CMR # would do.......
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Lobster Troll #1
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08-28-2010, 07:51 PM
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Registered User
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Location: On the ocean
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Originally Posted by robc22
I would like to know the MA reg. that prevents you from using legal/ legally caught lobsters for bait???? A CMR # would do.......
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Thank you.
I have yet to be able to find a law that makes it not okay.
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08-28-2010, 09:56 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Libtardia
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Originally Posted by FISHING_FOOL
Thank you.
I have yet to be able to find a law that makes it not okay.
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your not allowed to take lobsters with out a license, so unless you have a reciept from a fish market, your breaking the law- if you find and use a baby lobster, or a lobster with a notch cut out of his tail, your really breaking the law.. But if you have lobstering permit, then you can use one for bait as long as its legal size to keep
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