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[Nebe]

Scott, you can be really rude sometimes.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Scott, you can be really rude sometimes.
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It's all he really has, take that away and ... nothing ...

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

It's all he really has, take that away and ... nothing ...

-spence

very Saul Alynski, when you have no argument impune your target...no comment on the NEA encouraging their members to read up on and follow the directions of a communist organizer? ....hey Spence...nearly 10,000 posts on a fishing website from someone that doesn't fish screams of someone very desperate for attention from mom's basement somewhere

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

very Saul Alynski, when you have no argument impune your target...no comment on the NEA encouraging their members to read up on and follow the directions of a communist organizer?

Read your own link.

It clearly states that while Alynski is controversial both the Right and Left can and have gained insight from his books on grass roots organization.

See, they're assuming the reader can actually think critically and not just follow mindless blog posts.

NEA recommends the following Saul Alinsky books to those members of our Association who are involved in grassroots organizing, especially Association Representatives (ARs) — also known as building reps or shop stewards — and leaders at local affiliates.

Saul Alinsky is widely recognized as the father of, and pre-imminent expert in, grassroots organizing, which is why we recommend that ARs and local leaders become familiar with his theories & materials.

Alinsky’s writings have been called the “mother’s milk of the left,” however in an ironic homage, the conservative right has borrowed a page or two from the Alinsky playbook. Tea Party leader and self-described “conservative radical” Michael Patrick Leahy, for example, has authored a book based on Alinsky’s teachings: “Rules for Conservative Radicals.”

We hope that ARs and local leaders of all political stripes will discern from Alinsky’s books grassroots organizing strategies that will best help us bring our members together around the common goal of improving public education.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Read your own link.

It clearly states that while Alynski is controversial both the Right and Left can and have gained insight from his books on grass roots organization.

See, they're assuming the reader can actually think critically and not just follow mindless blog posts.



-spence

clearly stated....or clearly justified???

yeah, we need more of this in public education...


According to Alinsky, the organizer — especially a paid organizer from outside — must first overcome suspicion and establish credibility. Next the organizer must begin the task of agitating: rubbing resentments, fanning hostilities, and searching out controversy. This is necessary to get people to participate. An organizer has to attack apathy and disturb the prevailing patterns of complacent community life where people have simply come to accept a situation. Alinsky would say, “The first step in community organization is community disorganization.”

Through a process combining hope and resentment, the organizer tries to create a “mass army” that brings in as many recruits as possible from local organizations, churches, services groups, labor unions, corner gangs, and individuals.

According to Alinsky, the main job of the organizer is to bait an opponent into reacting. “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”[2]

Alinsky codified and wrote a clear set of rules[3] for community organizing. His rules for radicals are now used as key tactics to learn in the training of new community organizers.

In a separate chapter he suggests that the perennial question, "Does the end justify the means?" is meaningless as it stands: the real and only question regarding the ethics of means and ends is, and always has been, "Does this particular end justify this particular means?"

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

clearly stated....or clearly justified???

yeah, we need more of this in public education...


According to Alinsky, the organizer — especially a paid organizer from outside — must first overcome suspicion and establish credibility. Next the organizer must begin the task of agitating: rubbing resentments, fanning hostilities, and searching out controversy. This is necessary to get people to participate. An organizer has to attack apathy and disturb the prevailing patterns of complacent community life where people have simply come to accept a situation. Alinsky would say, “The first step in community organization is community disorganization.”

Through a process combining hope and resentment, the organizer tries to create a “mass army” that brings in as many recruits as possible from local organizations, churches, services groups, labor unions, corner gangs, and individuals.

According to Alinsky, the main job of the organizer is to bait an opponent into reacting. “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”[2]

Alinsky codified and wrote a clear set of rules[3] for community organizing. His rules for radicals are now used as key tactics to learn in the training of new community organizers.

In a separate chapter he suggests that the perennial question, "Does the end justify the means?" is meaningless as it stands: the real and only question regarding the ethics of means and ends is, and always has been, "Does this particular end justify this particular means?"

What's wrong with it?

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

What's wrong with it?

-spence

I suppose if, as Alynski, your ultimate goal is "political paradise of communism"....that would be your response

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Scott, you can be really rude sometimes.
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Spence's ankle biter chimes in as usual no comment on the rudeness of your hero???