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08-18-2010, 09:58 AM
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sick of bluefish
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Originally Posted by spence
No.
Sure they do. Some want to take away their "right" to move forward with their "already approved permits" simply because of their religion.
-spence
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no - MOST (not some Spence, polls say MOST) believe it is insensitive to the families of the deceased to erect a muslim center close to ground zzero because the murder of these people was committed in the name of __________ by people the people who are in the ____________ religion.
There is no "simply". It is understandable.
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08-18-2010, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
no - MOST (not some Spence, polls say MOST) believe it is insensitive to the families of the deceased to erect a muslim center close to ground zzero because the murder of these people was committed in the name of __________ by people the people who are in the ____________ religion.
There is no "simply". It is understandable.
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Once again, I think polling on this subject is highly suspect. Not that it doesn't reflect what people are thinking, but what exactly are they thinking?
I'd wager most people have formed opinions based on the controversy rather than the real story. When you have pundits attacking the "9/11 MEGA MOSQUE" and that they "ALWAYS BUILD MOSQUES ON THE SITE OF GREAT VICTORIES" you're going to build a jaded public opinion.
From what I gather the Imam leading the effort is pretty mainstream and the intent is to build a community center, not a Mosque.
So take the polls for what they are, but remember, nine years ago a majority of Americans believed Saddam was behind 9/11.
-spence
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08-18-2010, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
So take the polls for what they are, but remember, nine years ago a majority of Americans believed Saddam was behind 9/11.
-spence
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They did????
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08-18-2010, 08:41 PM
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But wait. Isn't that why we invaded Iraq?
Holy sheet were we lied to?
Baaah
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08-18-2010, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
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I don't see art. I see your son's crap.
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The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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08-19-2010, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
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" Link"....given the reports about Salman Pak at the time, Saddam's history of supporting terrorism and unceasing bad behavior, and probably thanks to the constant villification of Saddam including comparisons to Hitler by the Clinton administration and top democrats and the lib media all through the 90's, Americans thought it quite possible that there was some link... 
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08-19-2010, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
" Link"....given the reports about Salman Pak at the time, Saddam's history of supporting terrorism and unceasing bad behavior, and probably thanks to the constant villification of Saddam including comparisons to Hitler by the Clinton administration and top democrats and the lib media all through the 90's, Americans thought it quite possible that there was some link... 
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Oh I agree, and we now know that it was a direct result of the Administration "marketing" a case for war based on weak and inconclusive evidence.
So the polls probably did reflect public opinion, which was a "product" of an intentional effort to manipulate.
-spence
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08-19-2010, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Oh I agree, and we now know that it was a direct result of the Administration "marketing" a case for war based on weak and inconclusive evidence.
So the polls probably did reflect public opinion, which was a "product" of an intentional effort to manipulate.
-spence
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you ability to lie to yourself is stunning...
you need to replace "we know"...with..."I believe" because the two are entirely different things
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08-19-2010, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
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A man much smarter then I once said...
"I think polling on this subject is highly suspect. Not that it doesn't reflect what people are thinking, but what exactly are they thinking?"
Wild guess, you were in the other 30% column, right? 
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08-19-2010, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
A man much smarter then I once said...
"I think polling on this subject is highly suspect. Not that it doesn't reflect what people are thinking, but what exactly are they thinking?"
Wild guess, you were in the other 30% column, right? 
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"smarter" is certainly subjective.... 
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