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Old 07-23-2010, 11:50 AM   #1
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I love it, you have our state lowering taxes to encourage the local economy and you guys still have to bitch about it.

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Old 07-23-2010, 11:59 AM   #2
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I love it, you have our state lowering taxes to encourage the local economy and you guys still have to bitch about it.

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spence, Kerry doesnt represent "your state"

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Old 07-23-2010, 12:50 PM   #3
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spence, Kerry doesnt represent "your state"
I never said he did.

I said our state was lowering taxes to encourage business.

The article clearly indicates that if he wants to officially move the boat to Nantucket he's legally required to pay under the law. By keeping it in RI he limits his access which diminishes it's value.

You guys are coming to a conclusion with limited information. It's quite plausible that the designer of the boat wants it in Newport and this was agreed to ahead of time.

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Old 07-23-2010, 12:59 PM   #4
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I never said he did.

I said our state was lowering taxes to encourage business.

You guys are coming to a conclusion with limited information. It's quite plausible that the designer of the boat wants it in Newport and this was agreed to ahead of time.

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"It's quite plausible"? Now it seems that you're coming to conclusions about why the boat is in Newport. I think it's more plausible that Mr. Heinz is trying to avoid paying close to half a million dollars in taxes.

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Old 07-23-2010, 01:15 PM   #5
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"It's quite plausible"? Now it seems that you're coming to conclusions about why the boat is in Newport. I think it's more plausible that Mr. Heinz is trying to avoid paying close to half a million dollars in taxes.


yeah, AND he bought that yacht with some other guy's hard earned wealth.....shocker
Teresa Heinz Kerry is the heiress to the Heinz fortune. She inherited her vast fortune from her late husband, Senator Henry John Heinz....
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tax cuts for the rich...apparently
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Old 07-23-2010, 12:13 PM   #7
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I love it, you have our state lowering taxes to encourage the local economy and you guys still have to bitch about it.

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Do your realize that since Kerry is a citizen of MA, he's not helping his local economy by pulling these shenanigans? You just keep helping your local economy by continuing to get your mainicures and pedicures in RI, pretty boy.

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Do your realize that since Kerry is a citizen of MA, he's not helping his local economy by pulling these shenanigans? You just keep helping your local economy by continuing to get your mainicures and pedicures in RI, pretty boy.
So is Kerry obligated to buy ALL his goods and services locally?

He probably has bought a few suits in NYC in his life, shame, and with Louis right there...

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Old 07-23-2010, 01:10 PM   #9
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So is Kerry obligated to buy ALL his goods and services locally?

He probably has bought a few suits in NYC in his life, shame, and with Louis right there...

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I thought you were smarter than that, Spence. It's not about where it's bought, it's about where it's used. It's called a sales and use tax. You can buy a car in NH where there's no sales tax, but if you want to register it in the state you live, you pay the tax on it. If Mr. Heinz wants to use his boat in MA, which coincidentally is where he lives, he should register it in MA. Do you really think he's going to only use the boat out of Newport?

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I thought you were smarter than that, Spence. It's not about where it's bought, it's about where it's used. It's called a sales and use tax. You can buy a car in NH where there's no sales tax, but if you want to register it in the state you live, you pay the tax on it. If Mr. Heinz wants to use his boat in MA, which coincidentally is where he lives, he should register it in MA. Do you really think he's going to only use the boat out of Newport?
It looks like the boat is being used as a charter for a good part of the year, in which case being based in Newport would have many business advantages...LIKE LOWER TAXES.

Hell, this was probably written into the original purchase contract...

P.S. I'm still pretty damn smart.

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Old 07-23-2010, 01:44 PM   #11
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It looks like the boat is being used as a charter for a good part of the year, in which case being based in Newport would have many business advantages...LIKE LOWER TAXES.

Hell, this was probably written into the original purchase contract...

P.S. I'm still pretty damn smart.

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You must really be smart if you can determine that it's being used as a charter for "a good part of the year". The article mentions nothing about how much chartering the boat is doing. Or maybe it's just you making up stuff again and hoping you don't get called out on it.

I did hear he was seen at a Cape Cod store buying a sign that reads "The Poop Deck" to put on the door to one of the bathrooms on the boat. He also picked up an umbrella rig at a Cape tackle shop. Glad he's giving the business to local companies and is paying the tax for those items in his home state.

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I thought that in order for you to register a vehicle / boat that you had to be a resident of the state that you were registering it in?
If that were the case, then how could "Ketchup" Kerry be able to
"reside" in both states.

I have no problem with RI and their tax law. Heck, if it bring in the business, all the better.
But we're talking about a MA senator who "claims" he is working for the residents of the state, yet instead of "leading by example" and buying locally to help our state economy, he chose to go elsewhere.

It's a case of "Do what I say, not what I do"
Personally, I think he is a worthless POS living off his wife's $$ and his connection to the old Kennedy clan.
(Can anyone name anything he has done, or initiated in the past 2-5 years that didn't COST us $$?
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Old 07-23-2010, 02:16 PM   #13
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You must really be smart if you can determine that it's being used as a charter for "a good part of the year". The article mentions nothing about how much chartering the boat is doing. Or maybe it's just you making up stuff again and hoping you don't get called out on it.
Given Kerry's employment he really has limited time for yachting. It makes no business sense to keep a boat like this just sitting around collecting barnacles. They might even be able to depreciate it if it made sense.

There's a big difference between Kerry berthing the yacht in RI "to avoid taxes" vs "not haveing to pay taxes as a result".

So far you've presented no evidence to the former while I have to the later.

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