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Old 06-17-2010, 11:14 AM   #1
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So Obama did the right thing by refusing help from other countries?
Before you answer that you'd have to determine if the accusation is fact or politically motivated spin.

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Old 06-17-2010, 11:21 AM   #2
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Before you answer that you'd have to determine if the accusation is fact or politically motivated spin.

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Even you know the answer to that.

Johnny, I agree about other governments *probably* not being able to do much, but if I were the POTUS, I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. A lot of help was offered for cleanup and containment and was refused. This, more than any time in recent history is when all reasonable offers of help should be welcomed and accepted. As a country, the US has come to the aid of other nations time and again. Are we too proud to accept a helping hand when we need it?
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Old 06-17-2010, 11:37 AM   #3
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. Are we too proud to accept a helping hand when we need it?
no, there was just much more to be gained by a prolonged crisis...
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Old 06-17-2010, 11:28 AM   #4
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for every lame shot at Palin that you Obamunists take to make you feel what? smarter...wiser...more informed???, your messiah and his merry band of radicals put this country another tillion in debt and undermine the foundations of the country that they're sworn to uphold and protect...who has their head up their ass????

Palin is irrelevant...

the creep that you've elected is very relevant and dangerous...

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Old 06-17-2010, 11:38 AM   #5
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for every lame shot at Palin that you Obamunists take to make you feel what? smarter...wiser...more informed???, your messiah and his merry band of radicals put this country another tillion in debt and undermine the foundations of the country that they're sworn to uphold and protect...who has their head up their ass????

Palin is irrelevant...

the creep that you've elected is very relevant and dangerous...
From sensibility to stupidity in an hour and a half. I think that's a new record.
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Palin is irrelevant...
Then why do the repub. keep giving her $000,000 to hear her?
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Then why do the repub. keep giving her $000,000 to hear her?

I don't think it's any indication of the Republicans thinking she's relevant. $000,000 doesn't go very far these days.
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I don't think it's any indication of the Republicans thinking she's relevant. $000,000 doesn't go very far these days.
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:24 PM   #9
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I think Al Gore still gets paid to speak...couldn't be more discredited that that former left wing ICON

they lie to you EVERY DAY...you must like it

Drilling Bits of Fiction
Seven experts say the White House distorted their views

The Obama Administration is under political pressure to reverse its ill-considered deep water drilling moratorium, and the latest blowback comes from seven angry experts from the National Academy of Engineering who say their views were distorted to justify the ban.

In the wake of the oil spill, President Obama asked Interior Secretary Ken Salazar to produce a report on new drilling safety recommendations. Then on May 27 Mr. Obama announced a six-month deep water drilling ban, justifying it on the basis of Mr. Salazar's report, a top recommendation of which was the moratorium. To lend an air of technical authority, the report noted: "The recommendations contained in this report have been peer-reviewed by seven experts identified by the National Academy of Engineering."


Senior Editorial Writer Joe Rago explains the latest bizarre news from the White House.
.That would be false, sir. In a scathing statement this week, the seven experts explained that the report draft they had reviewed did not include a six-month drilling moratorium. That was added only after they signed off. "The Secretary should be free to recommend whatever he thinks is correct, but he should not be free to use our names to justify his political decisions," wrote the seven in a letter to Gulf Coast politicians.

The seven noted that they broadly agreed with the report and had even signed off on a proposal to suspend new deep water permits for six months. They also agreed to a "temporary pause" in drilling to perform additional testing on the Gulf's 33 deep water wells that have already received permits to drill.


.But as for a "blanket moratorium," the seven said it "is not the answer. It will not measurably reduce risk further and it will have a lasting impact on the nation's economy which may be greater than that of the oil spill." If anything, the ban could prove "counterproductive to long term safety."

One of the seven, University of California at Berkeley engineering professor Bob Bea, further explained in an email cited in the New Orleans Times-Picayune: "Moratorium was not a part" of the "report we consulted-advised-reviewed. Word from [the Department of Interior] was it was a [White House] request." In other words, the drilling ban is a West Wing political invention designed to make the boss look tough on oil companies. Our guess is that the credit goes to energy czar Carol Browner, who has been loudly touting the ban to show the Administration is doing something.

Mr. Obama has said he's open to rescinding the ban earlier if new safety recommendations could be implemented sooner. But he has punted that question to the commission he appointed to investigate the spill, which isn't even fully staffed and has six months to report its findings. That will arrive too late for thousands of Gulf residents who are at risk of losing their jobs within weeks as deep water rigs prepare to leave the Gulf. As a tacit admission of the damage it is causing, the White House is now saying it expects BP to cover the wages of workers affected by its own politicized moratorium.

Americans don't blame Mr. Obama for the oil spill, but they are beginning to doubt the competence of a President whose decisions suggest political panic more than careful policy. In their letter, the seven experts encouraged Mr. Salazar to "overcome emotion with logic" and rethink the ban. That's good political advice too
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