World Cup

[MarshCappa]

Originally Posted by mosholu

Marsh,
Nobody can take away from the fact that they are great athletes and there are some seriously heavy hits. Of course when you are covered in that much padding with a layer of plastic over on top and amped up on god knows what it is easy to throw yourself at people. QBs do not call their own game as the plays are sent in by radio from a guy on the roof and the majority of critical scoring plays are attempted by some failed little soccer player. No wonder the rest of the world can not watch it (canadians aside).
If you had an offensive and defensive team and once you are subbed for you are out of the game you may have a decent sport come out of it after a couple of years. It would kind of be like rugby.

For World Cup fans - Nigeria was really poor and in the second half were more worried about conceding a second goal than trying to get a point.

Dude don't even go there. Some of my friends in high school openly admitted they played soccer because they were afraid of getting hit in football. Completely different game so you can't even say soccer players are tougher than football players. I'll give them the stamina thing cuz the game keeps moving but take a look off the ball and they stand around or jog. They would pee their pants if they had to line up for a play in the NFL or they would do what they do best and fake an injury to stop play.

Enjoy your sport, it's pretty good to watch and I do like the rival countries playing eachother. But don't try and argue the toughness thing, it's not even comparable.

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by MarshCappa

Dude don't even go there.

Enjoy your sport, it's pretty good to watch and I do like the rival countries playing eachother. But don't try and argue the toughness thing, it's not even comparable.

And Rugby players ridicule how soft the NFL is.

Soccer reflects life, the NFL reflects battle (with a lot of padding, time to rest, and all kinds of rules).

[mosholu]

Originally Posted by MarshCappa

Dude don't even go there. Some of my friends in high school openly admitted they played soccer because they were afraid of getting hit in football. Completely different game so you can't even say soccer players are tougher than football players. I'll give them the stamina thing cuz the game keeps moving but take a look off the ball and they stand around or jog. They would pee their pants if they had to line up for a play in the NFL or they would do what they do best and fake an injury to stop play.

Enjoy your sport, it's pretty good to watch and I do like the rival countries playing eachother. But don't try and argue the toughness thing, it's not even comparable.

Was not trying to argue a toughness point because it is kind of apples and oranges. My point was that I think the human aspect of sport is getting a little lost in football with all the specialization and coaching. The fact that the average NFL career is less than six years says it all about the toughness required and the damage taken. I would be interested to know which you think would be tougher NFL or NHL?
On the rugby point I think any NFL linebacker or DB would be an awesome force on a rugby field and I generally would say you get more speed, skill and size in the LBs and DBs than what you have in international rugby.

Numbskull - I think the commentators have been told to keep talking for the benefit of the US audience on the assumption that they are new to football. I totally agree on the horns if they were sitting around you it would drive you mad.

[MarshCappa]

The NHL is probably the toughest league or hockey in general could be the toughest sport. To tough to call for me. Rugby is also a madman's gams. I played a little rugby in college club leagues and was really impressed how much toughness and stamina you needed. Rugby players are an insane bunch for sure. I loved the after party's! Keg stands anyone?


1-1 against England at the half. Cheese goal for the U.S. Good match so far. I'm watching and will continue to watch. Sorry if I was a little heavy handed and got carried away on the whole toughness thing. You're right it's apples and oranges. Different game, rules, etc. These guys are world class for sure.

[mosholu]

No offense taken, just having some fun shooting the breeze.
USA was gifted that goal at the end of the first half but in the second I thought did a great job shutting England down and had the better of the play. Dempsey and the fullback no. 6 had great games. If your English you have to be worried about their lack of speed in defense. If your the US everything looks good except maybe the strikers who did not really produce much. I think the US will go through.
I would have to give the edge to the NHL just based upon the number of games they play in a season counting the playoffs that is a lot of punishment.