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03-02-2010, 07:56 PM
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Swimmer, if the Government didn't give public lands to utilitys, we'd have no telephone, no electricity, no gas. We'd be living at early 1800s levels.
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03-02-2010, 08:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake
Swimmer, if the Government didn't give public lands to utilitys, we'd have no telephone, no electricity, no gas. We'd be living at early 1800s levels.
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Well Said Fred..
now given that...
as we both know.. Wind was invented in Truro..when the wind blows up there on the top of them hills, it howls..
a lot of acres that are not used or accessed much, owned by the Federal Govt. ...
Truro Wind Farm..  |
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03-03-2010, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Karl F
Well Said Fred..
now given that...
as we both know.. Wind was invented in Truro..when the wind blows up there on the top of them hills, it howls..
a lot of acres that are not used or accessed much, owned by the Federal Govt. ...
Truro Wind Farm.. |
My Grandfather had a windmill that pumped his well. It's been done.
I wonder if the NIMBY crowd would change their minds if their Town got free power for hosting a wind farm.. |
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03-03-2010, 06:14 AM
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there's new designs that are low profile for home owners
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03-03-2010, 07:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake
My Grandfather had a windmill that pumped his well. It's been done.
I wonder if the NIMBY crowd would change their minds if their Town got free power for hosting a wind farm..
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They'd be against an ATM that gave out free money for town residents - too much noise and crowding.... |
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03-03-2010, 08:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake
Swimmer, if the Government didn't give public lands to utilitys, we'd have no telephone, no electricity, no gas. We'd be living at early 1800s levels.
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Last I checked the proposal was to build in the ocean? Soliciting opinions is a dog-and-pony show when you know the answer is 'no' already. It's like trying to business with someone you know you can't make money with as soon as you look at them.
It's also important to note that if the wind farm produces power at 33% more than the current cost of coal burning power plants initially, the frequent increase in electric costs will begin to diminish the inefficiency of the wind farm each time our electric rates go up. |
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03-03-2010, 09:11 AM
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I'll take a smaller turbine in my back yard please. That, and throw in a Nuke in Little Compton
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03-03-2010, 09:39 AM
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A major issue that no one considers with an offshore wind farm is that the life of the equipment is significantly reduced due to the continuous exposure to salt water. The Jamestown bridge is a good example to what happens to the "usual" construction materials when exposed to a marine environment.
Wind power ..a good idea, offshore not so because to be economicly viable it will need to have a significant amount of taxpayer subsidy and right now this taxpayer can't afford any more...
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03-03-2010, 10:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishpart
A major issue that no one considers with an offshore wind farm is that the life of the equipment is significantly reduced due to the continuous exposure to salt water. The Jamestown bridge is a good example to what happens to the "usual" construction materials when exposed to a marine environment.
Wind power ..a good idea, offshore not so because to be economicly viable it will need to have a significant amount of taxpayer subsidy and right now this taxpayer can't afford any
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This has been one of the concerns that I have raised as well. Twenty, thirty years from now when energy is produce more economically, by another means, who is going to remove the eyesores. Look at southern Califonia, east of the Sieras adjacent to Edwards air force base. They are all over the place, like dune monsters. |
Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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03-03-2010, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake
Swimmer, if the Government didn't give public lands to utilitys, we'd have no telephone, no electricity, no gas. We'd be living at early 1800s levels.
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But we are paying for this to be constructed. Not only providing the land/water, but the financing as well.
You will see once the permits are issued, completely different entities owning the wind farm.
We should own it. |
Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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