Is this the Place?

[numbskull]

It has been a challenge (to say the least), but I think I'm almost there. Both sizes.

[jeffthechef]

a plug is born....looks like a surface popper, but i guess its a bottle plug in the making (see a bottle plug in the last shot)...also got some nice ideas from the pictures! (sanding jig)

[angler229]

Diggin Jiggin very nice stuff. That is a funny pattern to paint as it looks like you're painting a cow till you put the scales on it. One of those don't be afraid to make it look stupid first to make it look good later deals.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by numbskull

It has been a challenge (to say the least), but I think I'm almost there. Both sizes.

How slow will they swim?
I can get lipless swimmers to swim but not at a crawl, roughly at darter speed.

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

How slow will they swim?
I can get lipless swimmers to swim but not at a crawl, roughly at darter speed.

Don't know yet, Pete. The ones I've tried on my own in the past have sucked. Now, however, Billy lent me an original medium Musso (which I have not swum). There are a lot of subtleties to it, and copying it has been a learning experience, but I think I've got it and will be able to test prototypes pretty soon.

[JFigliuolo]

George... you really need to change your handle to Xerox. no one can repro a plug like you. (I mean that in a VERY good way)

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by JFigliuolo

George... you really need to change your handle to Xerox. no one can repro a plug like you.

No, that would be Paul (and Capesams). I'm shooting for close enough and in fishable numbers.

[mfm22]

George those lipless are shaping up nice .
I tried the small 1 oz. .. The line tie was just about dead center [good] the bottom angle and top angle were around 45 & 70 [ I don't have notes here ]. I was able to cut these with the squares on. the small lipless has concavities in bottom and top . Very small subtle hollows.
I just borrowed a med 2 oz. size different angles less concave ,the top was pretty much straight.
The line tie looked low[below center}?
I'm interested to know how you are able to replicate consistanly - jigs used

[WoodyCT]

Cloned from BM Schoolie, but will use a Lefty 2-Midslot lip since the one BM uses is a proprietary hybrid pikie lip.

Swam one with the L2 lip that I bent up a bit and got a pleasant surprise. Instead of swimming on or just below the surface as the BM did, these went down 4+ feet in a moderate current and had a nice wide wiggle witht the line tie level. With the tie bent down parallel to the lip it swam down about 12" with the same action.

After these cure for another couple days I'll wire up.

Thanks to all who have inspired, assisted and tolerated,
Jon