Biden is a complete dope.

[PRBuzz]

Semantics, semantics........saving a job is NOT creating a job. The workforce is ever expanding and new jobs have to be created to absorb the increasing population (including illegals) and put the 10% (likely much higher) unemployed back to work.

[spence]

Originally Posted by PRBuzz

Semantics, semantics........saving a job is NOT creating a job.

The net is that there's more money to go back into the economy and less of a drain on the social net.

That's what really matters.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

The net is that there's more money to go back into the economy and less of a drain on the social net.

That's what really matters.

-spence

I don't believe for one minute that keeping people off the "social net" has ever been part of the stimulas bill's plan.
Every move the Dems make is quite to the contrary

[PRBuzz]

Originally Posted by spence

The net is that there's more money to go back into the economy and less of a drain on the social net.

That's what really matters.

-spence

There is a lot less drain on the unemployment bene's: people have been out-of-work so long the allowed UI paycheck has expired and these people are no longer counted........

[spence]

Originally Posted by PRBuzz

There is a lot less drain on the unemployment bene's: people have been out-of-work so long the allowed UI paycheck has expired and these people are no longer counted........

That's a different issue.

The problem is that not all industries expand and/or contract at the same rate. In one sector there could very well be real job creation while others are still cutting.

Looking at a static picture of the net is deceptive because it's really a picture of the past. Hence a need to look at the trends to see where things might be going.

Certainly there are many experts who see continued cuts, but there's also hiring and job retention going on...otherwise we would be at 14% or 15% instead of just under 10%.

The real issue is, can the private sector sustain this on its own after Stimulus money runs dry? If you're of the opinion that the Stimulus has done nothing to create jobs, then I'd think the picture would look even better!

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

That's a different issue.

The problem is that not all industries expand and/or contract at the same rate. In one sector there could very well be real job creation while others are still cutting.

Looking at a static picture of the net is deceptive because it's really a picture of the past. Hence a need to look at the trends to see where things might be going.

Certainly there are many experts who see continued cuts, but there's also hiring and job retention going on...otherwise we would be at 14% or 15% instead of just under 10%.

The real issue is, can the private sector sustain this on its own after Stimulus money runs dry? If you're of the opinion that the Stimulus has done nothing to create jobs, then I'd think the picture would look even better!

-spence

yeah, just keep reading your teleprompter...like Obama ...no clue what you are actually saying....hence...corpse-man

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

That's a different issue.

The problem is that not all industries expand and/or contract at the same rate. In one sector there could very well be real job creation while others are still cutting.

Looking at a static picture of the net is deceptive because it's really a picture of the past. Hence a need to look at the trends to see where things might be going.

Certainly there are many experts who see continued cuts, but there's also hiring and job retention going on...otherwise we would be at 14% or 15% instead of just under 10%.

The real issue is, can the private sector sustain this on its own after Stimulus money runs dry? If you're of the opinion that the Stimulus has done nothing to create jobs, then I'd think the picture would look even better!

-spence

The real unemployment rate is closer to 17%.
They have yet to spend half of the stimulas $$$$. That they are holding onto for election purposes.