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01-15-2010, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Because some (often poor) people don't have a valid state or Federal ID, but still have the legal right to vote.
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that is crap... 
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01-15-2010, 06:28 PM
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that is crap... 
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Is that your legal analysis?
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01-15-2010, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Is that your legal analysis?
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Is it illegal for a State to require ID in order to vote?
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01-15-2010, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Is it illegal for a State to require ID in order to vote?
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I believe only a few states have passed laws that require this, but it would depend on state law. Regardless the issue presented was if there were legitimate arguments, and there would appear to be.
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01-15-2010, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I believe only a few states have passed laws that require this, but it would depend on state law. Regardless the issue presented was if there were legitimate arguments, and there would appear to be.
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Twenty five States require ID. Most of them have some sort of provision for those who forgot to bring the ID, such as provisional ballots, signing affidavits, answering certain questions such as SS#, address and birthdate, etc. that may conform with the official roster. Certainly, if we legitimately require ID for more mundane activities (driving an automobile) wouldn't it be legitimate to require that someone identify that he is the person legally registered to vote?
Last edited by detbuch; 01-15-2010 at 08:52 PM..
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01-16-2010, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Certainly, if we legitimately require ID for more mundane activities (driving an automobile) wouldn't it be legitimate to require that someone identify that he is the person legally registered to vote?
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What you're stating is an argument while ScottW had asked for a legitimate reason.
Personally, I think the argument that federal or state ID is a reasonable measure to help prevent fraud. That being said, I think that disenfranchisement is a legitimate issue...one that's outweighed in many cases by the need to prevent fraud.
-spence
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01-16-2010, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
What you're stating is an argument while ScottW had asked for a legitimate reason.
Personally, I think the argument that federal or state ID is a reasonable measure to help prevent fraud. That being said, I think that disenfranchisement is a legitimate issue...one that's outweighed in many cases by the need to prevent fraud.
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If we are interpreting Scott's "legitimate" strictly as a legal term meaning in compliance with law rather than meaning"based on logical thinking", then, since by law, everyone, regardless of economic status, must register to vote, and, I believe, must have some form of ID with address to do so. How is requiring someone to show that ID when he is going to practice that for which he registered, disenfranchisement?
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