Is this the Place? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Backbeach Jake · 12-13-2009, 09:30 AM

Danny eyes: I made a few and didn't like the way they looked while swimming. Some rolled so much that it looked as tho the eyes were on top of the plug. I imagine that a fish would think "What the H!!" seeing a baitfish with it's eyes bobbing all over the place.

Karl F · 12-13-2009, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake

Danny eyes: I made a few and didn't like the way they looked while swimming. Some rolled so much that it looked as tho the eyes were on top of the plug. I imagine that a fish would think "What the H!!" seeing a baitfish with it's eyes bobbing all over the place.

fish also might think...hmmm... EZ dinner...dying baitfish that can't swim right side up...slurp...

Backbeach Jake · 12-13-2009, 09:49 AM

Karl! Yep that's a good point.

BigFish · 12-13-2009, 09:49 AM

Fred makes this "Dying Danny"......thing swims ugly as hairy ass......but I watched the fish pound this thing one night down the back! Fred got I think his biggest surf bass that night if memory serves?! Went a healthy 30 pounds easy right Fred?

Awesome plug....just like Karl said.....floundering, dying baitfish!

eastendlu · 12-13-2009, 09:54 AM

Hi guys soory i am late major toothache i can't wait to see the dntist tomorrow.

Backbeach Jake · 12-13-2009, 09:56 AM

That little plug...

I fished it like this:
Cast wait , do absolutely nothing
Big yank, wait
Start slowly cranking
WHAM
Repeat
Best night I ever had. Now the truth, that plug was s**t beginner luck, the first of two swimmers of any kind that I ever built. Larry you have the other in olive.

BigFish · 12-13-2009, 09:58 AM

Nope! I lost that to a bluefish that had good taste Fred! You still have a master I hope?

Backbeach Jake · 12-13-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

Nope! I lost that to a bluefish that had good taste Fred! You still have a master I hope?

The original hangs from the rafters of the ManCave..

BigFish · 12-13-2009, 10:02 AM

Sgt. I love surfsters but I tried several before I designed my "Prey" swimmer and hated the action on them! They all rolled 180 degrees and they were just but ugly in the water! I wanted mine to wiggle and actually swim just below the surface. So I simply put a 00 slug of lead in the belly to act as a keel......it swims beautiful and drops below the surface easily without benefit of the sloped head! Try one without the lead in the belly Sgt. and one with a shot of lead....see how you like it?

eastendlu · 12-13-2009, 10:06 AM

But weren't surfsters originally designed for flat water thats why no weight and alot of roll?So when you bring it in slowly it has that wounded baitfish action.

Backbeach Jake · 12-13-2009, 09:58 AM

Ooo Lu toothaches suck. Did that this Spring, missed the best part of June because of it. Hope it gets resolved quick.

numbskull · 12-13-2009, 10:24 AM

Hello, I went to church and prayed for Paul's gastroenterologist. Hope the guy has a good face mask.

Gee Lu, a bridgeport couldn't fix that tooth for you? Them dentists will put a hole in your plug buying budget.

Speaking of keels, anybody here ever seen a Shakespeare Egyptian Wobbler? They made a "striper" version. The plug has a keel fin (a lot of their plugs did). Thinking I might try one for fun.

As for lips and roll, the wider the lip relative to the width of the plug, the more the problem. The lower the line tie the more it is magnified, but high line ties pull a plug deeper.

Many guys these days build "dannys" using fat bodies for buoyancy, underweight them, then use a high slot lip to pull it down and get it working. Makes for an impressive surface wake and a fast action. The originals have a lot of weight in them (10-12 grams for a medium), less bulbous midsections (less buoyancy) and low slot lips. They sit lower in the water and work at slower speeds than much of the new stuff. Even the Beachmaster dannys are now fatter than their original version (and the Pichneys).

Not sure the fish care, but I like dannys/donnys long with a slow wag and that start working at the slowest speed I can stand. As Fred pointed out, sometimes letting them sit and barely moving them is the best method, but it takes a better man than me to cast a plug out there then not start retrieving it right away.

ProfessorM · 12-13-2009, 10:30 AM

LOL.

I too am trying to do some old style dannies this year, thinner heavier ones like G stated. We will see if they work any good.

eastendlu · 12-13-2009, 10:00 AM

Speaking of turds that catch fish i made some small musso darters (used the wrong wood) darted nice then would roll completely over and come across the top of the water smaking a few times then roll back and start darting again.The bass were like piranhas on it and wanted nothing else.A friend fishing next to me could not buy a hit we both were just laughing it was every cast go figure.

eastendlu · 12-13-2009, 10:02 AM

You guys should buy stock in anbesol as i am drinking this stuff like water.

BigFish · 12-13-2009, 10:03 AM

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You guys should buy stock in anbesol as i am drinking this stuff like water.

Hey Lou! Take your Anbesol spam to scuppers......whatcha got for plugs Lou???

numbskull · 12-15-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eastendlu

Speaking of turds that catch fish i made some small musso darters (used the wrong wood) darted nice then would roll completely over and come across the top of the water smaking a few times then roll back and start darting again.The bass were like piranhas on it and wanted nothing else.A friend fishing next to me could not buy a hit we both were just laughing it was every cast go figure.

You know, Lu, Roy L told me his friend got a high 30 lb fish in the canal this fall on a darter that was doing exactly the same thing. If you stop to think about it, a combined sub-surface and surface plug might have something to say for it.

Sgt Striper · 12-13-2009, 09:50 AM

His or mine ? and where's the large one