Is this the Place?

[numbskull]

No comments on the patched misdrills, by the way. The darter deflected when I through drilled the weight, the lipless swimmer I forgot was off center drilled.

Epoxy and 1/8" dowel cures many ills.


The other lesson for the week is that soft maple is a SPONGE. Had a darter go from 2.1 to 2.9 oz (2.8 after drying) after 6 hours soak, and a wad go from 2.0-2.8, though it dried down to 2.4. Sort of wrecks havoc with any attempt to weight it before you seal it.

[WoodyCT]

Originally Posted by numbskull

Good morning. Gets later and later each week.

Woody, in my experience decent bass like big lazy slow spooks more than the splashy faster kind. Hard to make yourself work them slow, however, particularly when things are slow and you are searching (same issue arises with swimmers).

Got a big thrill out of F Pintauro's articles about Musso. 2 weeks ago Back Beach was telling me how the "Musso" eely was such a great lure for him at the Race years back. I told him the only eelys I knew of were the BM and Pichney (a style plug I fished years ago a bit but left me underwhelmed). Also they are forward weighted and don't look like fast water plugs to me, so I was surprised (and a little skeptical) they were a hot item at the Race. Accordingly my eyes popped out when lo and behold there is a picture of one in Frank's article. That and a Musso bottle darter, and some lipless swimmers.
Certainly got the juices flowing. Here are some prototypes (next to a copy of a musso pine sr).

I figured folks would like the Musso articles- I sure got a woodie from them. Those, along with the work you and Paul do have me chomping at the bit to get into the shop.

Tried today, but could not what I intended for the Penn State duplicator I received for Xmas isn't going to work out for me. I'd have to make 1/16" thick (THIN!) templates, thus involving metal work, or cut originals in half lengthwise in order to use it. NOT and NOT! Going to return it and buck up for the Vega.

Thinking about a little 1.5oz. Surface Torpedo, like the ones pictured in one article.

Keep up the inspiring work,
W

[JFigliuolo]

Originally Posted by numbskull

Good morning. Gets later and later each week.

Woody, in my experience decent bass like big lazy slow spooks more than the splashy faster kind. Hard to make yourself work them slow, however, particularly when things are slow and you are searching (same issue arises with swimmers).

Got a big thrill out of F Pintauro's articles about Musso. 2 weeks ago Back Beach was telling me how the "Musso" eely was such a great lure for him at the Race years back. I told him the only eelys I knew of were the BM and Pichney (a style plug I fished years ago a bit but left me underwhelmed). Also they are forward weighted and don't look like fast water plugs to me, so I was surprised (and a little skeptical) they were a hot item at the Race. Accordingly my eyes popped out when lo and behold there is a picture of one in Frank's article. That and a Musso bottle darter, and some lipless swimmers.
Certainly got the juices flowing. Here are some prototypes (next to a copy of a musso pine sr).

That Musso bottle darter is a dead ringer for a plug I finally got nailed this fall. Just goes to show... aint nothing new.

[pbadad]

Larry I take the primer amount and cut it w/ paint thinner. i.e. 1 pt primer, 1/2 pt thinner. Dry overnight dip again. Lightly sand or gray scotchpad.

[Backbeach Jake]

Thanks for the ratio.

[pbadad]

Gotta go. Talk throughout the week

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by pbadad

Gotta go. Talk throughout the week

I'll say you gotta go. You've got more A-jrs to finish than Paul has fleas.

[Pete F.]

Most woods are porous, a few are not. White oak is not and that is why it is used for casks. I have not seen a table quantifying the porosity.
I have had the most sucess using a oil based polyurethane sanding sealer to seal and rattle can primer. I dip and drip my sealer.
Where were the Musso articles?

[numbskull]

Vintage lure forum has a link.

[Pete F.]

You could use a drum on the drill press with a block the same size as the drum screwed to the table. Similar to an overhead or pin router.

[ProfessorM]

I am just getting started in darter hell. Will be making fixture's this week hopefully. I am going to do the first part on the table saw as G. convinced me last week when he stopped by. To me this is the most fun part.

[eastendlu]

Making jigs sometimes (dare i say it) is more fun than making the plug itself.George i am now awake.One of these days i have to get over to your place would love to tinker with some of your older tools.I just got my overtime back so maybe i can get some toys done for some of you guys for plugfest.

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by ProfessorM

I am just getting started in darter hell. Will be making fixture's this week hopefully. I am going to do the first part on the table saw as G. convinced me last week when he stopped by. To me this is the most fun part.

If i was making a jig to do it on a table saw I'd make it larger than it has to be . Cutting little pieces on a table saw is sketchy imho..

[Karl F]

Woody..
do a home made dupi...
ala fishbumwannabe, or Prof. M's version....
think you will be pleased with that one the most.

do a search for home made duplicator...

[ProfessorM]

Yes Karl I am still using mine and I have a Vega and it has never been hooked up. For the type of runs I do, 30 would be a max per plug,mostly 5 or 10 it works great and it is kind of old school which I like too. Hell my lathe is probably older than Capesams

[Karl F]

couple shots of the dup and one getting started

[Karl F]

roughing/rounding it out with the gouge, using the dup as a the guide,
then getting started with the dup cutter...

[Karl F]

done...
then move on to "orienting" Eddy... cut lip slots, then drilling..

but... 25 danny bodies, turned with the homemade rig.. about an hour and 40 minutes tops I'd guess...

Tain';t booger speed...but for cellar dwellin sawdust sniffers, that ain;'t bad!

[Karl F]

if my memory serves me right...this may be the same 25 done..

been 4 or 5 years since i took them pics...so.. i think i grabbed them from the right file...

[go4broke44]

in regards to dip priming, I do this as well. 50/50 mix Zinsser shellac based (red label?) and denatured alcohol I believe. a little 220 grit to finish and its good to go.

[pbadad]

Originally Posted by go4broke44

in regards to dip priming, I do this as well. 50/50 mix Zinsser shellac based (red label?) and denatured alcohol I believe. a little 220 grit to finish and its good to go.

Thanks for the reply. I just finished priming around 50. I did 2 coats on one batch then 1 coat on another. I think 2 coats add a xtra layer to cover grain. Do you dip 1 or 2 coats?

[go4broke44]

Originally Posted by pbadad

Thanks for the reply. I just finished priming around 50. I did 2 coats on one batch then 1 coat on another. I think 2 coats add a xtra layer to cover grain. Do you dip 1 or 2 coats?

depends on the grain of whatever wood I'm using, usually ayc, cherry, etc is just one coat. if I'm using mahogany for instance, I might dip, sand, and dip again.

[pbadad]

I found that out with the grain in the wood. I did 2 looks good. I colored the primer w/ lamp black for a dark gray. 1 coat covers better. Thanks for the input.

[go4broke44]

speaking of dipping, I found this can of some black exterior oil based super paint and figured I'd try dipping a plug in it just to see how it worked. No sealing, no clear or primer, just the paint.

did a 40 made from ayc I think, took over a week to dry guess I should have thinned it. Finish has held up pretty good though.

[WoodyCT]

I've found that having a thick layer of soft primer (like Cover Stain) under paint can result in the paint actually breaking away from the primer.

Ever see the paint and epoxy come off leaving the primer on the wood after dinging rocks?

[go4broke44]

agreed woody, this is why I make sure to now thin it out pretty good for dipping.

[Jigman]

Originally Posted by WoodyCT

...Ever see the paint and epoxy come off leaving the primer on the wood after dinging rocks?

It means the paint is not sticking to the primer.

Jigman

[BigFish]

I have never had that issue! Even after hook rash and dings my paint and clearcoat hold great with no lifting or peeling at all!

[ProfessorM]

All youzz guys stuff looks great. I am pretty much done with turning, except for some small runs of some vintage stuff that several members of both sites have been nice enough to lend me this winter, still got a few coming. Some real nice Musso's and Pichney's. I really enjoy that part, the old stuff. I am sealing every day now and belly weighting now and soon it will be prime time. Still got a special tail wgt mold in the process for Slip and I and a plug fixture or 2 for myself. trying to clean up that deal I got on the Delta drill press and I have a few lip styles I need to make for those vintage plugs I will be doing so I have gov. jobs going at work too. I luv being too busy as I get bored fast and jump around a lot, must be my ADD.

[Backbeach Jake]

Good morning, Paul
You have ADD, I have SUBTRACT, I lose stuff just by putting it down. Sometimes it's still in my hand. I was clearing yeaterday and lost my acid brush. Guess where I found it..In my hand. E-tex makes you high..