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Old 12-12-2009, 10:47 AM   #1
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"The House bill, which passed 223-202, would grant the government new powers to split up companies that threaten the economy, create an agency to oversee consumer banking transactions and shine a light into shadow financial markets that have escaped federal oversight."

THEY'RE ALREADY WATCHING YOU.It's called the PATRIOT ACT.
BARNEY FRANK !!! The same guy that crafted this bill. The same guy that allowed banks to merge into " to big to fail banks". VOTE HIM OUT.
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Old 12-12-2009, 11:46 AM   #2
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BARNEY FRANK !!! The same guy that crafted this bill. The same guy that allowed banks to merge into " to big to fail banks". VOTE HIM OUT.
Sssshhhhhhh...soon Sarah Palin will pick this line up

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Old 12-12-2009, 11:48 AM   #3
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the Commiecrats never f-ing quit...

Friday, March 13, 2009 | Modified: Wednesday, March 18, 2009
Community bank finds paranoid a smart betFDIC begs to differ, tells bank to lend more
Boston Business Journal - by Tim McLaughlin
Joseph A. Petrucelli is one of the most cautious bankers in America.

In fact, Petrucelli is so cautious that the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. recently criticized his bank for not lending enough.

The FDIC’s negative review of East Bridgewater Savings Bank’s loan volume is an anomaly in today’s current banking scene as lenders reel from their role in offering too many cruddy mortgage products to borrowers with weak credit.

[B]Still, the FDIC slapped East Bridgewater Savings with a rare “needs to improve” rating after evaluating the bank under the Community Reinvestment Act.[/B]

From late 2003 through mid-2008, East Bridgewater Savings averaged 28 cents in loans for every dollar in deposit. The average loan-to-deposit ratio among similar size savings banks is more than 90 percent, FDIC data show.

“There are no apparent financial or legal impediments that would limit the bank’s ability to help meet the credit needs of its assessment area,” the FDIC said in its CRA evaluation.

FDIC examiners also faulted East Bridgewater for not advertising and marketing its loan products enough. The bank, which does not have a Web site, offers fixed-rate mortgages.

But Petrucelli and his bank occupy the other end of the spectrum in an industry that lost $26.2 billion in the fourth quarter. Even the FDIC’s own deposit insurance fund is in bad need of a boost after paying for an upswing in bank failures.

And then there’s East Bridgewater Savings.

Bad or delinquent loans?

Zero.

Foreclosures?

None.

Money set aside in 2008 for anticipated loan losses?

Nothing.

“We’re paranoid about credit quality,” Petrucelli said. The 62-year-old chief executive has run the bank since 1992.

The negative CRA rating, he said, caught him by surprise. The bank received “satisfactory” CRA ratings from the FDIC in 2003 and from the Massachusetts Division of Banks in early 2006.

East Bridgewater Savings ended 2008 with $135 million in assets and deposits of $84 million.

The bank even squeaked out a profit of $87,000. And its Tier 1 risk-based capital ratio was 31.6 percent, or more than three times higher than many community banks in Massachusetts.

But in the eyes of regulators, East Bridgewater Savings looks stingy. Its net loans and leases equaled 21 percent of assets. That compared with 72 percent among 385 savings banks across the country with assets between $100 million and $300 million.

“We want to make loans,” Petrucelli said. “But we also wanted to avoid the next blow up.”

He said the bank is now in position to boost lending. But he quickly added that East Bridgewater Savings won’t do anything that’s not good for the bank or its customers.

Bart Narter, a senior vice president at Celent, a Boston-based financial research and consulting firm, said small banks face cost disadvantages because they don’t have the scale of their larger rivals. But they also have the means to grow because they have plenty of capital and can make loans when other banks can’t.

“Smaller banks have done a better job of lending because they actually know their borrowers,” Narter said. “Big banks are crunching big numbers, but they don’t know their customers as well.”

At the same time, Narter expects that banks in the $100 million to $300 million asset category, where East Bridgewater Savings is situated, will soon begin to decline in number as they find themselves at a competitive cost disadvantage.

Petrucelli, however, said he believes his bank can grow.

Before the mortgage boom went bust, Petrucelli said, his own employees questioned the bank’s abundance of caution. They saw other banks grow while East Bridgewater Savings sat tight.

“Other bankers wondered if we were crazy because of how cautious we are,” Petrucelli said. “They thought we could be making a lot more money.”

In 2008, loans generated total interest and fee income of $1.6 million. Interest on securities and government bonds generated more than twice as much at $3.8 million.

The son of a railroad worker, Petrucelli’s prudence and caution come from being a first-hand witness to a lending train wreck called Eliot Savings Bank.

In 1989, Petrucelli took over as CEO of Boston’s Eliot Savings after a management team of MBA hotshots turned the sleepy bank into a commercial lending juggernaut. In the hundred years before that rapid transformation, Eliot Savings did home mortgages and handled passbook savings accounts.

It was safe and steady.

But during a three-year commercial lending spree that ended in 1988, Eliot’s commercial loans skyrocketed from less than $2 million to nearly $360 million.

Bad loans already were piling up when Petrucelli arrived on the scene, and he couldn’t prevent the bank from capsizing. “I went down with the ship,” he said.



Tim McLaughlin can be reached at tmclaughlin@bizjournals.com.
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The recession is the fault of our government basically encouraging US companies to export jobs overseas to keep profits in check. Less high paying jobs in the U.S. meant less people were able to pay their mortgages and the result was the collapse of the banks that were leveraged 30 or 50 to 1...

Whose fault was it? Every person who buys products made in China is to blame. Buy American.
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Old 12-12-2009, 01:57 PM   #5
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What Eben said! Can you say NAFTA?

Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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Old 12-12-2009, 06:04 PM   #6
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The recession is the fault of our government basically encouraging US companies to export jobs overseas to keep profits in check. Less high paying jobs in the U.S. meant less people were able to pay their mortgages and the result was the collapse of the banks that were leveraged 30 or 50 to 1...

Whose fault was it? Every person who buys products made in China is to blame. Buy American.

for the 3rd time ever - what he said....

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I agree with the loss of jobs overseas, but all of us that borrowed, borrowed, borrowed are to blame as well.

Real estate lawyers and mortgage brokers will drive uo prices again.

remember the first real estate crash circa 1989? things were terrible until around '92 or '93.

Any coincidence that each time a Bush was in office? Too bad Obama was elected to fix the problem. he has made it worse
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The recession is the fault of our government basically encouraging US companies to export jobs overseas to keep profits in check. Less high paying jobs in the U.S. meant less people were able to pay their mortgages and the result was the collapse of the banks that were leveraged 30 or 50 to 1...

Whose fault was it? Every person who buys products made in China is to blame. Buy American.
another AMEN, from the amen chorus..
only thing I will add, is blame the folks that hire the guest workers, with or without papers, and send their money OUT of the country..
not only buy American, or (most likely) American owned, but HIRE Americans too.
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The recession is the fault of our government basically encouraging US companies to export jobs overseas to keep profits in check. Less high paying jobs in the U.S. meant less people were able to pay their mortgages and the result was the collapse of the banks that were leveraged 30 or 50 to 1...

Whose fault was it? Every person who buys products made in China is to blame. Buy American.
Nebe, you should consider politics.

Your statement makes no real sense, and isn't backed by any facts or anecdotes...but regardless will be instantly adored by the average joe six pack who still holds a full vote.

Excellent job!

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The real estate bubble and all that came with it.

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Nebe, you should consider politics.

Your statement makes no real sense, and isn't backed by any facts or anecdotes...but regardless will be instantly adored by the average joe six pack who still holds a full vote.

Excellent job!

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it was a very broad wide encompassing statement that has some truth to it, no facts or anecdots ( but i'm sure some could be presented if one has the time). we average joe six packs who are lucky that they let us vote may see some merit in his post. sat. 7:30ish- should'nt you be shoe shopping or ironing next weeks outfits

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it was a very broad wide encompassing statement that has some truth to it, no facts or anecdots ( but i'm sure some could be presented if one has the time). we average joe six packs who are lucky that they let us vote may see some merit in his post. sat. 7:30ish- should'nt you be shoe shopping or ironing next weeks outfits
Shoes? You have no idea

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Look for a date when the Glass Steagel Act was changed to let banks grow across state lines and become too big to fail. Anybody remember Ronnie?
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Look for a date when the Glass Steagel Act was changed to let banks grow across state lines and become too big to fail. Anybody remember Ronnie?
not sure which Ronnie you are referring to but Bill Clinton enthusiastically signed the repeal and Robert Rubin was the architect....

Nov 12-1999, President Clinton stated, " Glass- Stegal (FDR Banking Bill) is no longer appropriate for our economy. This was good for the industrial age. The (1999) Financial Modernization Bill is the key to rising paycheck and great security for ordinary Americans".

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