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10-29-2009, 06:32 PM
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Old Guy
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
you should read some books on the history of Europe 1925-1940.
Believe it or not Hitler was seen as a brilliant diplomat. Chamberlin from England loved him. Hitler frequently made concessions to get what he wanted.
With nukes, you either have them or you dont. Every consession buys Iran more time.
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I am with Jim here. this is dangerous territory |
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10-29-2009, 09:23 PM
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Registered Grandpa
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Whoops, looks like Iran changed their mind about sending uranium
out of the country which they had agreed to last week.
More stalling.
The only thing that will get their attention is strength.
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" Choose Life "
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10-30-2009, 04:59 AM
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more of the same
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10-30-2009, 09:06 AM
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If you bomb Iran's nuclear capacity and you don't capitulate the theocracy, you open yourself up to state-sponsored nuclear terrorism. Make no mistake, the Iranians will retaliate if attacked so long as there is continuity with respect to command and control. In the real world, the military answer brings with it the baggage of occupation and nation building. Our military is stretched as it is now - even if we were so inclined as to attack, logistically, we're not in a position to conduct such operations.
Also, Iran is overwhelmingly Shia where Afghanistan and Iraq are Sunni - so how you treat each nation and the progress each makes will be held up for comparison. This could also spell trouble as we could be seen as being more for one arm of Islam than the other.
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10-30-2009, 09:32 AM
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Registered Grandpa
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I agree Joe, but we all learned a long time ago you can
only negotiate from strength or there is nothing to be gained.
This "making nice" stuff gets you nowhere with crazies like him.
He is sitting in the catbird seat.
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" Choose Life "
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10-30-2009, 10:21 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Originally Posted by justplugit
I agree Joe, but we all learned a long time ago you can
only negotiate from strength or there is nothing to be gained.
This "making nice" stuff gets you nowhere with crazies like him.
He is sitting in the catbird seat.
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So what is the other option?
War? Invade Iran? Bomb the sh-t out of them? |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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10-30-2009, 10:55 AM
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Registered Grandpa
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
So what is the other option?
War? Invade Iran? Bomb the sh-t out of them?
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Start with more sanctions and blockade.
Our Commander in Chief needs to step up and be just that.
We need a leader, his indecision on Afghanistan makes him look weak,
and now that he is looking at sending 1/2 the troops his General asked
for, it is making him look more like an appeaser again.
Either send what they need or get out. |
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10-30-2009, 11:04 AM
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The options are always the same: diplomacy, economic incentives or sanctions, or military action be it overt or covert. Usually, a combination of all three.
Diplomacy is not synonymous with weakness. Diplomacy often entails allowing the other party to take enough rope with which to hang themselves. (I.E.: The Cold War ending as a result of the Soviets inability to match us economically during an accelerated arms race.) Personally, I think that eventually Iran will come around and the theocracy will fall as a result of domestic insistence.
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10-30-2009, 12:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
So what is the other option?
War? Invade Iran? Bomb the sh-t out of them?
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YES, but it won't be us doing it |
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