Let me get this straight re: Health Plan

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

From "documents smuggled out of the former Soviet Union?"



-spence

We all know how devious the "former Soviet Union" was, but what you're implying here raises its level of devious to unheard of heights of brilliance. Are we to assume that you mock the veracity of these documents because the Old Soviets planted stories about Teddy making nice with them, kept these docs hidden within their iron curtain so that they could be "smuggled" out to later smear an opponent of their greatest opponent (Ronald Reagan) . . . so that . . .ugh . . . well, who knows what motivated that "riddle wrapped in a mystery inside of an enigma" that Churchill called Russia to craft this supreme ruse?

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Are we to assume that you mock the veracity of these documents because the Old Soviets planted stories about Teddy making nice with them, kept these docs hidden within their iron curtain so that they could be "smuggled" out to later smear an opponent of their greatest opponent (Ronald Reagan) . . . so that . . .ugh . . . well, who knows what motivated that "riddle wrapped in a mystery inside of an enigma" that Churchill called Russia to craft this supreme ruse?

You talk about the event like it's a wrote fact.

-spence

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

You talk about the event like it's a wrote fact.

-spence

Of course, facts ARE before they are written. The writing only informs those that don't know. Of course, not all writing is true. Neither is all writing false. I don't know if the docs are true. The fact that there is more than one source cited to similar events adds credibility. If they are true, what would you think then? Would you simply say "who cares?" It is wrote fact that these docs, true or not, exist. They are cited to former KGB. If they actually were smuggled out of the Soviet Union archives, then, either the Kennedy events DID happen, or, the Soviets concocted the brilliant deviousness to an unknown end to which I referred. If the docs were never in the Soviet archives, then somebody else has concocted a nefarious and multi-collaborated plot, a mini-conspiracy, that was so hushed, that we are just now getting to hear about it. The best way, of course, to sweep away embarrasing "facts" is to ignore them. Cast a quick, unsubstantiated suspicion their way and move on.

[spence]

From what I understand there was a single document uncovered by a UK reporter in the former Soviet Union, and his story was referenced in a book.

It's never been officially vetted, aside from some person involved having some other people look at it and they think it looks quite real.

And that's enough of an iron clad case to be accusing the man of treason on his death bed?

I wonder how many times you've cursed Dan Rather...come on now, be honest.

-spence

[scottw]

a Philadelphia news outlet did ask Kennedy for a statement, there was no denial by Kennedy nor his staff of the existence or validity of the document, they instead questioned the "interpretation" of the document, being a liberal democrat is never having to say you are sorry for undermining your own country...I have no doubt that this is perfectly acceptable and defensable among the Kennedy admirers...

Spence, you will remember that the liberal media and elites rallied around Rather and bestowed awards on the rat...

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

a Philadelphia news outlet did ask Kennedy for a statement, there was no denial by Kennedy nor his staff of the existence or validity of the document, they instead questioned the "interpretation" of the document, being a liberal democrat is never having to say you are sorry for undermining your own country...I have no doubt that this is perfectly acceptable and defensable among the Kennedy admirers...

The old "prove a negative" argument...sort of like saying that because the meeting between Atta and Iraqi agents in Prague hasn't been completely shot down, there's a chance it still could have happened.

A lot of hearsay in your argument. Perhaps there's a good reason why nobody seemed to care.

-spence

[scottw]

more likely, noone was surprised...