White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I have no idea what is already happening as I only read the bold text.

Isn't New Zeland where they filmed Lord of the Rings???

-spence

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by spence

Isn't New Zeland where they filmed Lord of the Rings???

-spence

Ohhhhh. But I already knew that

[Cool Beans]

it amazes me how people can honestly believe, that making something bigger and giving more people benefits will be cheaper....

it's seems a lot like spending your way out of debt....

JUST DOESN'T WORK

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

it amazes me how people can honestly believe, that making something bigger and giving more people benefits will be cheaper....

it's seems a lot like spending your way out of debt....

JUST DOESN'T WORK

Agreed. That's exactly what I'm saying. Don't give the lowlifes any health care and let time take its course. Not only will we save money, but after some of the meth heads die, fewer people will be breaking into cars at the canal to steal change for their next fix.

Don't spend your way out of the health care issue, let nature take its course.

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Originally Posted by Cool Beans

it amazes me how people can honestly believe, that making something bigger and giving more people benefits will be cheaper....

it's seems a lot like spending your way out of debt....

JUST DOESN'T WORK

I don't think that's the argument.

It's that a public option will force the private insurance companies to compete, when now, they really have no competition.

Hell, even the GOP couldn't negotiate a bill for Medicare coverage of prescription drugs with free market principals.

Your sound bite sure sounds good, but it's pretty meaningless...

-spence

[Cool Beans]

How can a insurance company compete with an entity that does not have to make a profit, no taxes, and can get $$ at a cheaper rate than them?

Obama said so in a speech a few days ago, that the government program would indeed have these advantages over private companies, so how can they compete? They can't this bill, if passed, would eliminate the private companies. I read another thing that will bring this about, employers that sign up with the government option would get a 5% tax break on employee taxes, so it will be cost effective for these employers to leave private and go government option.

This will not increase competition, it will eliminate all competition over several years. Look up some of the latest miracle drugs for any sickness and see where they were developed, most were developed here as they can recoup their investment and make a $ in the process. Eliminate this and things will definitely change for the worse.

The #1 cost for the health care industry is frivolous lawsuits, if we eliminate them we just about save the system.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't think that's the argument.

It's that a public option will force the private insurance companies to compete, when now, they really have no competition.the "public option would undercut the private companies and drive them out of the market this has been stated as the intent by Obamiods and Obama himself, that's the goal, stop pretending and reciting Obama's phony talking points, he's even given up on that one......

Hell, even the GOP couldn't negotiate a bill for Medicare coverage of prescription drugs with free market principals.
you purchase private plans that you chose which are outside of medicare, there are free market principles at work, the perscription plan is not administered completely by Medicare...

Medicare Part D is successfully providing comprehensive and affordable drug coverage to Medicare beneficiaries. Although the program got off to a rocky start, it has and continues to improve each and every day.
The program is supported by high levels of satisfaction among participants and its competitive model has resulted in extensive coverage options, broad choices of plans and lower costs to beneficiaries and taxpayers.
Looking at several indicators of success, we believe that Part D is working very well. Enrollment has exceed expectations; competition among private-sector drug plans has resulted in a broad choice of benefits, strong access to needed medicines and significant cost savings for patients; and, the program is currently estimated to cost taxpayers less than originally estimated
that's weird, you'd think there'd be no competition between the companies without a public plan competing



Your sound bite sure sounds good, but it's pretty meaningless...nasty

-spence