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Old 08-05-2009, 11:53 AM   #1
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Bad Article that is selective in its reporting.

What the article leaves out is that Obama came out almost immediately after the Advisers made their comments and reiterated his stance on not raising taxes.

I like this line;
"Democrats have already taxed the middle class by raising cigarette taxes to pay for the children’s health-care expansion."

There was widespread support by Republicans for the cig tax increase, yet the author of the article (rather, the *Opinion* article) puts the emphasis on Democrats. This is aside from the ridiculousness that stating increasing the cig tax is "taxing the middle-class".

Misinformation at its best.

As you stated, it is an "opinion" piece. But the context of it is correct in stating that he more than likely lied when he unequivocally said he wasn't going to raise taxes on the middle class. His own people are already saying that they can't rule out tax increases for the middle class.

Hell, it's only been about seven months since he took office and he's spending money like a sex addict at the bunny ranch on half price day. Now it's $2.4 billion for electric cars? WTF. When will he just sit down with some experts and evaluate things? It's like he's afraid if he doesn't keep rushing things through and throwing money around, someone might find out that he has no idea what's he's doing.

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Old 08-05-2009, 12:06 PM   #2
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Germany actually did the 'cash' for clunkers first.
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Old 08-05-2009, 07:11 PM   #3
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When will he just sit down with some experts and evaluate things? .
Between his Cabinet and 36(?) czars he must have enough of the brightest to sit down with.

Last week it was reported on the news that his Green Czar was still trying to define what a "green job" is.

Who are these Czars who have not been vetted by anybody but the Pres. himself?

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Old 08-06-2009, 06:20 AM   #4
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Between his Cabinet and 36(?) czars he must have enough of the brightest to sit down with.

Last week it was reported on the news that his Green Czar was still trying to define what a "green job" is.

Who are these Czars who have not been vetted by anybody but the Pres. himself?
I am purely specualting, but I am sure that if you check the backgrounds a significant number of them are the very "Lobbyists" your good president vowed to throw out of Washington. Why doesn't he attack that with the same energy he is using to spend our money???

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Old 08-06-2009, 06:51 AM   #5
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if you check the background of his czars you will be frightened...

"So...apparently Obama has quietly appointed a Communist to a government position. The position of "Green Jobs Czar" is now held by admitted Communist Van Jones. Yes, this is news to us too. The media has more important things to concentrate on, like Michael Jackson.

From East Bay Express:

Jones had planned to move to Washington, DC, and had already landed a job and an apartment there. But in jail, he said, “I met all these young radical people of color — I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, ‘This is what I need to be a part of.’” Although he already had a plane ticket, he decided to stay in San Francisco. “I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary.” In the months that followed, he let go of any lingering thoughts that he might fit in with the status quo. “I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th,” he said. “By August, I was a communist.”

1. Technology Czar: Aneesh Chopra.
2. Drug Czar: Gil Kerlikowske
3. Copyright Czar: Not appointed yet.
4. Energy Czar: Carol M. Browner
5. Car Czar: Ed Montgomery.
6. Terrorism/WMD Czar: Gary Samore.
7. Health Care Czar: Nancy-Ann DeParle.
8. Education Czar: Not appointed yet.
9. Economic Czar: Paul Volcker.
10. Mortgage Czar: Not appointed yet.
11. Urban Affairs/Housing Czar: Adolfo Carrion.
12. Guantanomo closure Czar: Danny Fried.
13. Great lakes Czar: Cameron Davis.
14. Stimulus accountability Czar: Earl Devaney.
15. Cyberspace Czar: Not appointed yet.
16. Border Czar: Alan Bersin (Former US attorney).
17. Intelligence Czar: Admiral Dennis Blair.
18. Regulatory Czar: Cass Sunstein.
19. Pay Czar: Kenneth Feinberg
20. Iran Czar: Not appointed yet.
21. Tarp Czar: Herb Allison.
22. Middle-East peace Czar: George Mitchell.
23. Science Czar: John Holdren.
24. Green jobs Czar: Van Jones.
25. Afghanistan Czar: Richard Holbrooke.
26. Sudan Czar: J. Scott Gration.
27. Mideast policy Czar: Dennis Ross.
28. Information Czar: Vivek Kundra.
29. AIDS Czar: Jeffrey Crowley.
30. Faith-based Czar: Joshua Dubois.
31. Climate Czar: Todd Stern.
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:57 PM   #6
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Why R U complaining?

U voted for him.

Get use to it.

Give up fishing, get a second or third job and pay your extra taxes.

U deserve it.

U voted for him.
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