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07-20-2009, 09:43 AM
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I used to use Seaguar Floro, and all the other brands until one day/night I ran out and tied up a whole bunch of rigs using either Penn or Big Game leader 30-40lb test and I caught just as well with regular mono over floro so I've not gone back to florocarbon leaders.
I also tried using regular barrel swivels over the very expensive B/B barrels and also found that the fish don't give a shyt about that either. I used to think that any edge I could give myself was worth the extra money, but after using regular mono leader and plain ole' barrel swivels for connecting to the mainline and caught the same amount and all manner of sizes, I go the cheap/inexpensive route now.
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07-20-2009, 09:53 AM
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Not just for fly guys
Orvis Mirage Fluorocarbon 60 or 80lb.
You will love it!
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07-20-2009, 10:07 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodyCT
Orvis Mirage Fluorocarbon 60 or 80lb.
You will love it!
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Yes! Been using this for a while now, no problems, and its a lot cheaper then seagar.
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07-20-2009, 10:53 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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Thanks, men - I've been hearing good things about the Orvis Mirage - just wanted to see what was being used.
May give it a try - coupla questions, are you using 60 or 80 for eel leaders - and how does it tie up?
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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07-20-2009, 11:27 AM
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Location: MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crafty Angler
Thanks, men - I've been hearing good things about the Orvis Mirage - just wanted to see what was being used.
May give it a try - coupla questions, are you using 60 or 80 for eel leaders - and how does it tie up?
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Ive been using 52 , 60 , and 80 for eel and some plug leaders. The 52 and 60 tie easily , the 80 is a little harder , but fine. You still want those otw mags?? If not there going out to the trash on wed.
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07-20-2009, 11:41 AM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Rhode Island
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For a leader, I've put a picture of Pol Pot up on the wall, and I use the threat of sending myself to a re-education camp to keep me motivated.
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07-20-2009, 01:15 PM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheferson
Ive been using 52 , 60 , and 80 for eel and some plug leaders. The 52 and 60 tie easily , the 80 is a little harder , but fine. You still want those otw mags?? If not there going out to the trash on wed.
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Chef, I've gotta take a trip to Quaker Lane Wednesday and can swing down your way to pick 'em up if that works for you -
Thanks for holding them - PM me the contact info, I've got the whole day off but would like to do it in the AM if possible
Yeah, think I'm gonna try the Mirage 60 - next time I'm going by the Edge I'll pick some up
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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07-20-2009, 01:47 PM
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Night Stalker
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ............
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have any of you guys that use fluoro noticed a big advantage over mono in durability? for bass i don't think line visability is an issue at all but if it is that much more durable it might be worth consideration.
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07-20-2009, 10:54 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Seagar mostly when plugging. That's what I started with when I went to Fluoro and never tried much else. Can't say I've noticed a problem. Fluorocarbon does lose strength with age......for fly tippets I've run into bad batches of several different brands.
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07-20-2009, 03:36 PM
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None
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Newton, MA
Posts: 4,464
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheferson
Yes! Been using this for a while now, no problems, and its a lot cheaper then seagar.
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cant even find it in the store. all fo them holds 20 lbs test. =/
i tried online before and its hard for me to tell if its in higher lbs test or not. can u point it out to me?
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07-20-2009, 04:12 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Notaro
cant even find it in the store. all fo them holds 20 lbs test. =/
i tried online before and its hard for me to tell if its in higher lbs test or not. can u point it out to me?
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Select this
$15.95 40-Meter Spool .017"-.030" (SI76P6-60) , then lower down select size .030 is the 80lb , .027 is 60 . and .025 is 52. Quaker lane has it too.
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07-20-2009, 04:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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I'd still like to know what the gripe is with seaguar Chuck.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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07-21-2009, 05:42 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
I'd still like to know what the gripe is with seaguar Chuck.
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Okay, Chris - I'm not gonna take the bait but I'll take a swipe at it...
Steve Cross at the Edge turned me on to it when it first showed up and I just got partial to it - it seemed limper and tied up better than the Seagar - IMHO. I think the Iron Man was using it too at the time, but don't know what he's using these days. It's personal preference and it sounds like you're pleased with it -
Like Roy said, It's like every thing else, if you have confidance in it and it works for you then go with it.
(BTW, Roy, I got a graduate course in snook fishing the Sanibel pier by the lighthouse from an old guy using jigs and the biggest Zebco I've ever seen on an old Harnell...  ...)
Anyway, I've Googled the Varivas a number of times since the importer stopped bringing it in and was unable to find anything heavier than 20# - Steve was going to bring me some from his personal stash the last time I talked to him
Just checked my PM's and someone sent me a link last night, so apparently it's back stateside again...
A BIG thumbs up to my undisclosed source... 
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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