Obama seeks common ground?

[Cool Beans]

I give up on you guys. Wait until Israel takes action. Obama is isolating them more each day and they "will not go quietly into the night". They will preemptively strike Iran (I'd say withing 6 to 8 months from now). I've talked with a couple Israeli military officers on their reaction to Obama's speech and they were very pissed off. They told me, it may come to a head very soon.

Perhaps, Obama will have us defending our enemy against our "long time friend". (very possible)

So I misspelled Kuran.....
Cut and paste, yes, but thats what I had to do as I didn't write the freaking book. Chapter and verse is there so you can look it up.

Many of you seem to forget the CNN footage of them dancing in the streets after learning of 9-11 (several countries over there Saudi included) or the Saudi housewife that when asked if America deserved the attack, she looked at the camera almost crying and said "Yes! Most definitely!"

Most of them do hate America. I have been to Saudi Arabia (3 times), Dubai (5 times), Jabel Ali (not sure on spelling 4 times), Bahrain (over 10 times), Abu Dabi (3 times) many of the people you meet that treat you nicely there are from India and make up most of the menial work force. When you meet or speak with the locals, even in ports of our allies, you can easily see their disdain for us. It is in their religion and they will not be changed by pretty words.

[spence]

I love how you can lump 1.6 Billion people into a single "them".

You seem to be continuing Bush's black and white approach to this problem. A strategy that has led to significant gains by radical or fundamentalist Muslims in Egypt, Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, Palestine, Uzbekistan, Iraq and on and on...

The approach you seem to be endorsing has pretty much proven time and time again to be a failure and yet you ridicule what it by most measures a pragmatic strategy based on common sense.

There are 6+ Million Muslims in this country you know. We're not going to have to worry about Beans taking out the guy with the funny hat who runs the gas station by the base are we?

Hint: He's really a Sikh...

-spence

[scottw]

[QUOTE=spence;692211]I love how you can lump 1.6 Billion people into a single "them".

Obama lumped 1.6 billion people into a single THEM.....

Obama said he was seeking "a new beginning between the US and Muslims around the world" -- implying that "Muslims around the world" (including Muslim Americans) represent a monolithic bloc, as Osama bin Laden and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad claim.

Is the president unaware that there are 57 countries with Muslim majorities and a further 60 countries where Muslims represent substantial minorities? Trying to press almost a quarter of humanity into a single ghetto based on religious apartheid is the fruit of either woeful ignorance or dangerous provocation.

[scottw]

There are 6+ Million Muslims in this country you know.

-spence[/QUOTE]

Debbie Schlussel cites a reputable survey by Pew that puts the number of Muslims in the US at 1.8 million
FACTCHECK
Obama: U.S. “One of the Largest Muslim Countries.” Not!

By Brooks Jackson ~ June 4th, 2009. Filed under: FactCheck.org, President Obama.
President Barack Obama claimed that the U.S. is “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world” in terms of population. That strains the facts mightily. The U.S. Muslim population probably doesn’t even rank in the top 50.

There’s no hard count of U.S. Muslims. The U.S. Census does not ask about religious affiliation.

At the high end of the estimates, a 2001 study by the Council on American-Islamic Relations, based on interviews with representatives of U.S. mosques, estimated about 2 million Muslims are associated with a mosque. From that, the authors projected: “Estimates of a total Muslim population of 6-7 million in America seem reasonable.”

The Pew Research Center released a study in 2007, calling its methodology “the most comprehensive ever used to study Muslim Americans.” The study was based on a poll of 60,000 respondents. Conclusion:

Pew Research Center, 2007: The total Muslim American population is estimated at 2.35 million, based on data from this survey and available Census Bureau data on immigrants’ nativity and nationality.

An even more recent study released in March of this year, and based on answers from 54,461 respondents, came up with results similar to the Pew study. The American Religious Identification Survey conducted by Connecticut’s Trinity College estimated the adult U.S. Muslim population at 1.35 million, not much different from Pew’s estimate of 1.4 million adult (meaning age 18 or over) Muslims. Both put the adult Muslim population at 0.6 percent of the total U.S. adult population. And that’s the figure currently used by the Central Intelligence Agency in its CIA World Factbook entry on the United States.


this will likely change after the White House and Acorn seize control of the census...

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

Most of them do hate America. I have been to Saudi Arabia (3 times), Dubai (5 times), Jabel Ali (not sure on spelling 4 times), Bahrain (over 10 times), Abu Dabi (3 times) many of the people you meet that treat you nicely there are from India and make up most of the menial work force. When you meet or speak with the locals, even in ports of our allies, you can easily see their disdain for us. It is in their religion and they will not be changed by pretty words.

I've seen this too, I am not sure if it is their religion but there is definitely disdain for the USA and other foreign nationals.