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Old 05-05-2009, 08:46 PM   #1
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Will someone at this meeting explain how eliminating the commercial fishery and hamstringing the charter industry will CREATE 14,400 jobs?

If so, I would gladly listen with an open mind.
I guess I don't see making stripers a game fish hurting the charter boat people that much. May stop some from picking up some extra money commerical fishing but it may actually help them in the end.

Looking at the low end of the estimates there are at least a million people who fish for stripers at least once a year. Turn that into jobs to support needed tackle, bait, motel rooms, food service, charters, party boats, boatyard help, and so on I think that makes more jobs then having a commercial fishery.

The main thing is I think if we keep our present path we risk losing all of those jobs. From 1960 through 1974 the commercial catch averaged about 10 million pounds a year. From 86 - 89 it averaged about 350K. How did that work for everyone.

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Old 05-06-2009, 07:46 AM   #2
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Looking at the low end of the estimates there are at least a million people who fish for stripers at least once a year. Turn that into jobs to support needed tackle, bait, motel rooms, food service, charters, party boats, boatyard help, and so on I think that makes more jobs then having a commercial fishery.
How does it create jobs if those 1Mil people are already fishing for stripers at least once a year??? Is it suddenly going to be 2mil? then bass have even more to worry about....

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Old 05-06-2009, 07:59 AM   #3
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One fish, or a slot. Either way, cut back Rec AND commercial take by 30% (PS VAN - if your slot allows for taking of smaller fish than you increase your take on males, thus protecting more females).

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Old 05-06-2009, 08:50 AM   #4
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How does it create jobs if those 1Mil people are already fishing for stripers at least once a year??? Is it suddenly going to be 2mil? then bass have even more to worry about....

I don't trust any organization that 1-sided, but SF is on my scares me list...

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My thoughts exactly. Wouldn't you need to exponentially increase the numbers of people fishing for stripers to increase the jobs related to striper fishing? If that many more people are fishing, more released fish will be dying due to normal c&r mortality.

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Old 05-06-2009, 12:00 PM   #5
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How does it create jobs if those 1Mil people are already fishing for stripers at least once a year??? Is it suddenly going to be 2mil? then bass have even more to worry about....

I don't trust any organization that 1-sided, but SF is on my scares me list...

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Do you trust ASMFC to do the job. I will be very surprised if they don't increase the commercial quota by 25% soon. It was a tie vote at the last meeting but there are more states that allow commerical fishing then don't, so it is just a matter of time. If you look at the last meeting minutes the commercial interest were saying 50% increase would be reasonable.

Even if the commercial quota is increased to 10 million pound how many jobs do you think that really leads to. A good percentage of the commercial catch comes from people who are really not commercial fisherman, there picking up a few bucks to pay for gas or their boat. From a full time stand point this catch would be lucky if it created 500 jobs total.

I agree that we should reduce the limit for recreational fisherman. The purpose of the slot limit is mainly to add male fish to the catch since they usually don't go above 30". Once we get the license system in place I would like to see a 1 fish slot and when you get your license you get two trophy tags for fish over 40". Or something like that.
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How does it create jobs if those 1Mil people are already fishing for stripers at least once a year??? Is it suddenly going to be 2mil? then bass have even more to worry about....

I don't trust any organization that 1-sided, but SF is on my scares me list...

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yes - 1 fish at 36 inches ... it works

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