Any luck? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

numbskull · 04-25-2009, 05:51 AM

"Don't fish angry".........Redlite 2008

luds · 04-25-2009, 06:38 AM

Harry,
Sounds like you had too much coffee and not enough sleep! I'm sure I'll have a similar demeanor at some point this year but it's too early!

I will say that I rarely ask that unless I'm at a well known spot or I know the person really well. If I do ask and it is a good spot sometimes I'll follow it up with one of the best Swingers quotes.

"This place is dead anyway"

It's like a Jedi mind trick and they leave. You have to do it with the right amount of swagger.

Raven · 04-25-2009, 06:57 AM

that "tool" may have had endless opportunities...

buy a boat.... and relax

fishing is for fun

spinncognito · 04-25-2009, 07:12 AM

Wah Wah Wah.... so someone asked if you were having any luck and it pissed you off? Perhaps you should have replied, "I have been picking off a few, how have you been doing this season so far?" That tool may have told you he had been into fish all night at ___________.

Any Luck? is a common question and if you are that miserable fishing perhaps you should find a hobby you enjoy.

rant over
carry on

Sea Flat · 04-28-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by spinncognito

Wah Wah Wah.... so someone asked if you were having any luck and it pissed you off? Perhaps you should have replied, "I have been picking off a few, how have you been doing this season so far?" That tool may have told you he had been into fish all night at ___________.

Any Luck? is a common question and if you are that miserable fishing perhaps you should find a hobby you enjoy.

I agree with this!! Why so angry? If you don't want to answer the question honestly then stretch the truth, but at least be polite!

Fisherman should be like brothers that all take part in one of the most enjoyable and relaxing past times that is on this earth. "Can't we all just get along?"

flyvice11787 · 04-28-2009, 05:18 PM

To all the posters who see this as a very negative post, see my post stating that I believe there are only 3 types of answers to the question "Any luck?" when i am into fish and someone shows up late. Some form of "Yes", some form of "No", or silence.
Then you need to understand that the spot I was fishing is a very small spot. A very small piece of structure in a small location.
I don't need to feed information to someone so he can come back and "share" the spot with me. Of course it is not "my" spot, it's a public place. I would just rather not have someone I do not know crowding me. The reason I was angry is that the guy wanted to know if there are fish there. In the original post, I was pretty clear that I put in my due diligence, being there after working late and with little sleep. Why should he be entitled to find out what is going on without his putting in the time? Why do I need to have to lie to the guy? I would rather not answer than have to lie to someone. As another member pointed out, had I shared info with this guy, it may have been reciprocated, but that may not be the case. If I am missing out on a bite somewhere else, it's either I am not doing my homework, or it is just my loss as I can't be everywhere at once.
There is certain information that can be shared and locations discussed, this just didn't happen to be it.

Gunpowder · 04-28-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by flyvice11787

To all the posters who see this as a very negative post, see my post stating that I believe there are only 3 types of answers to the question "Any luck?" when i am into fish and someone shows up late. Some form of "Yes", some form of "No", or silence.
Then you need to understand that the spot I was fishing is a very small spot. A very small piece of structure in a small location.
I don't need to feed information to someone so he can come back and "share" the spot with me. Of course it is not "my" spot, it's a public place. I would just rather not have someone I do not know crowding me. The reason I was angry is that the guy wanted to know if there are fish there. In the original post, I was pretty clear that I put in my due diligence, being there after working late and with little sleep. Why should he be entitled to find out what is going on without his putting in the time? Why do I need to have to lie to the guy? I would rather not answer than have to lie to someone. As another member pointed out, had I shared info with this guy, it may have been reciprocated, but that may not be the case. If I am missing out on a bite somewhere else, it's either I am not doing my homework, or it is just my loss as I can't be everywhere at once.
There is certain information that can be shared and locations discussed, this just didn't happen to be it.

thats a fair response flyvice, and though i would not have responded with the "silent treatment", when you explain it as you did in this response, i guess i understand where you were coming from a little more. i have walked by many people on the beach that have chosen not to mention anything to my question "hi, hows it going?" but like you said, some people just want to fish and dont want to be interrupted. there are many different kinds of people out there fishing who all fish for different reasons.... now, tell me where your little spot is so i can determine if there are fish there or not

GonnaCatchABig1 · 04-28-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by flyvice11787

To all the posters who see this as a very negative post, see my post stating that I believe there are only 3 types of answers to the question "Any luck?" when i am into fish and someone shows up late. Some form of "Yes", some form of "No", or silence.
Then you need to understand that the spot I was fishing is a very small spot. A very small piece of structure in a small location.
I don't need to feed information to someone so he can come back and "share" the spot with me. Of course it is not "my" spot, it's a public place. I would just rather not have someone I do not know crowding me. The reason I was angry is that the guy wanted to know if there are fish there. In the original post, I was pretty clear that I put in my due diligence, being there after working late and with little sleep. Why should he be entitled to find out what is going on without his putting in the time? Why do I need to have to lie to the guy? I would rather not answer than have to lie to someone. As another member pointed out, had I shared info with this guy, it may have been reciprocated, but that may not be the case. If I am missing out on a bite somewhere else, it's either I am not doing my homework, or it is just my loss as I can't be everywhere at once.
There is certain information that can be shared and locations discussed, this just didn't happen to be it.

you had me sympathizing (not that you care, nor should you honestly) till this post.. and since you threw out your opinion i guess i'll toss out mine. i mean it's only fair we all get too right?

where you lost me... is in the selfish over tone of this post. i understand the frustration of being out all night and then it seems like someone wants an easy path to the fish. but at the same time, is catching a few fish really more important treating a fellow fishermen (person at the least) with some respect? if you were having a rough night and just wanted to be left alone fine. everyone has nights like that. but for the reasoning to be "i was there longer and studied the area harder, so those are my fish" (which you can vehemently deny, but thats pretty much what you said about the night in question) is just re-donk-u-lous. in the 20 years i have fishing (mostly fresh mind you) i think there is one spot i picked out all my own with no prior knowledge. and i was 5 years old at the time. since then every single spot i have found has been the result of some one else's knowledge. whether i got it from reading a book or listening at bait shops etc. at some point some one else had previous knowledge of the spot/conditions/structure type/etc.. it would be unfathomable to think that at some point in time that any spot i or you fished was not known to someone else at some point. and more than likely the same info that steered you to that spot probably steered others.

thats not say that their aren't instant tips that people chose to, or chose not to give for certain spots. but i am willing to bet with 125% certainty that you learned about that type of structure to fish from some one else willing to divulge the information about it.

let's look at it like this. you have never fished before. some one hands you a rod and reel. and let's say... a popper. keep in mind you have no idea how to fish. or even what fish are out there. and this person says catch a striper. with no further instructions. what the heck would you do? i am willing to bet you wouldnt be catching any fish.

point being fishing is a sport of information. for someone to assume that someone else is not going to be out there scouting and asking around for info is ridiculous. infact 90% of the sport revolves around the sharing of info and ideas. (the other 10% is radical new ideas that then ofcourse get shared) even that crap you read on the packaging of plugs was at one time probably "top secret" info. that is if everyone followed that same rational of "i found this out so it's mine". you probably wouldn't have a leg to stand on. and neither would i nor would 90% of fishermen out there today.

it's just like every other craft out there. trial and error. LOTS AND LOTS of ERROR passed on from generation to generation. with out any of the passing on of knowledge what do any of us have? a bunch of gear we have no idea what to do with.

i have learned sooooooooo much about fishing from other people i can't even begin to sum it up. but with out all those random people i have run into. including these boards. i would be beyond lost. i probably still wouldn't know to look for structure at all. hell i probably wouldn't even know what the fish ate. let alone where to fish for them.

like i said i understand a bad day wanting to be left alone. we all have days like that and go out and do what we enjoy to help relieve the stress. and will lie or ignore people just due to not wanting to deal with people. (though PERSONALLY the last thing i do when i want to ignore people is go outside, don't have the liberty of consistently empty spots) but to say you ignored this guy because (for whatever reason) you are entitled to the fish there, is in MY opinion, completely the wrong thing to do.

nightfighter · 04-25-2009, 07:19 AM

It is too early for that. Unless you fish in NY. But, if you had shown me that kind of attitude, I would have ripped you a new %$%$%$%$%$%$%$. I am done taking %$%$%$%$ from self righteous people while fishing anymore. K-bar is on the belt and a nine foot whip in my hands.

GonnaCatchABig1 · 04-25-2009, 07:34 AM

this situation is the one i am torn the most about in fishing. on one hand you have a completely valid argument. we have all been in that situation where you just don't wanna fill guys in, due to not wanting to be crowded out and the such. (this isnt specifically about you and your situation mind you. just a generalization.)

on the other hand... for most guys out there "any luck?" is a greeting of sorts. i use it all the time. (i do through in a hi first though) not because if he says yes i'm gonna take up residence right next to him. or be there the next day. i'll find some place down the beach. or as VERY LAST resort due to area restrictions ask if the minds if i take up a spot.reasonably away ofcourse. (but the latter is pretty doubtful) buuuuuuuut i ask to strike up friendly convo. i can tell if i am buggin the guy after about a minute or so and bid fair well. otherwise you can get some great chit chat in and learn some things about the area, and possibly ::gasp:: make a new buddy to run into out there.

(next part is for the sake of argument)
i mean i came to that spot to fish. whether or not you are catching doesn't matter to me. from my personal view you are in ""MY"" spot of the day/night. granted if you are there i'll move down the road a bit. but you catch my drift. cause it's the same in your eyes when you show up to fish and there's someone already there. you know you have all done it... show up see some one right in or close enough to your favorite perch. and sort of grumble to yourself under your breathe. then start running through a list of people in your head, about who might have told the guy about the spot.

(end)

however these days i have stopped trying to make friends almost all together. some chatting at the shops, (usually much to short cause we are always rushing to make tides) and this board are the only places i talk to people about fishing.

i gotta tell ya it kind of sucks. not really fishermen's faults. with access so restrictive to places these days, they almost have no choice but to be defensive when approached. but still, it would be nice to be able to approach some one and say hi and see whats goin on. (not nag the guy to death or crowd him out)

last year i met one plugging guy (the bucket patrols are usually easy to get along with) while actually fishing. ONE, just One. we just happened to be sharing a rock. (it was a BIG rock and after a 40min drive we were not about to not fish it because of one guy. could have fit 20 on it) and after about an hour or two, he was nice enough to suggest a new a spot since that spot was pretty dead. so we all went and got skunked at the new spot. (lol)

to me that just sucks. i'd love to meet some new guys out there in the surf and on the rocks. but don't even bother trying anymore due to the "stay the hell away from me" attitudes out there. i completely understand people are out there to fish. but would it really kill some people to have a brief 5min convo about fishing? don't even have to share any decent info.

on the other hand.. we all do have those leave me alone moments. for me though that has less to do with the fishing and more to due with my current attitude. maybe it's just every time i run into some one they have had a bad day?

i guess i'm just wishing socializing on the water wasn't such a frowned upon thing. would be nice to get in a few laughs with a stranger every now and then.

BigFish · 04-25-2009, 07:43 AM

When I come across a fisherman in my travels, as a way of saying hello and being polite I say just exactly that....."Any Luck?" It means no harm and all I am really looking for is a general response......"Ya its ok" or "Kinda quiet" or "Got a few shorts".......but its just my way of saying Hello and engaging in some polite conversation. If the guy stood there just watching you Harry you probably would like that less. I always try to be polite as we do share the same passion.....right? I can on occasion be a bit moody...I have had my moments.......but "Any Luck" is mostly just a greeting between fishermen in my opinion.

Jenn · 04-25-2009, 07:50 AM

I agree. I have said it in the manner of just friendly conversation starter and gotten a sour puss response (or better yet just an ugly glance) Look it....I didnt ask what you were using, how, when , etc. etc. etc......If your not in the mood to share is it SO hard to be a kind human and simply say "not really" or "kinda slow" or better yet "nah just got here and you"? This is generally what I say when asked and I dont want to necessarily share any info.

This is what gets me (and not just with fishing) people just dont seem to be nice to each other anymore. It has made me not even want to say "hello" when passing someone on a walking trail, while fishing, etc. I am afraid I will get some nasty response...

Sad really....

GonnaCatchABig1 · 04-25-2009, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jenn

This is what gets me (and not just with fishing) people just dont seem to be nice to each other anymore. It has made me not even want to say "hello" when passing someone on a walking trail, while fishing, etc. I am afraid I will get some nasty response...

Sad really....

i hear ya.

i am not the most clean cut person on earth. i admit it. i can look down right scary to some people. (or like a run of the mill scum bag to others) but i was still raised to be kind and courteous.

that said.. you should see some of the reactions i get when trying to be nice. the biggest thing i get the "what a jerk" look from doing is... holding the door for people. it's just amazes me. i mean i don't do it to get praise. i was being nice. but also i most certainly do not do it to get a nasty look of disgust.

had i known that person was gonna be a jerk about it, i would have felt much less obligated to nice.

flyvice11787 · 04-25-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

When I come across a fisherman in my travels, as a way of saying hello and being polite I say just exactly that....."Any Luck?" It means no harm and all I am really looking for is a general response......"Ya its ok" or "Kinda quiet" or "Got a few shorts".......but its just my way of saying Hello and engaging in some polite conversation. If the guy stood there just watching you Harry you probably would like that less. I always try to be polite as we do share the same passion.....right? I can on occasion be a bit moody...I have had my moments.......but "Any Luck" is mostly just a greeting between fishermen in my opinion.

Larry, I did say that the guy never even greeted me. I don't like to answer "Any luck?" to someone who I don't even know because my telling him "No" means I have to lie to the guy, and "Yes" would tip him off too much for a small spot. If it was reversed, I'll usually greet someone I don't know first, and if I get a reply, then I might venture to ask if he was having any luck. Usually, I'll wait for the guy to leave the spot and ask how he did, so it doesn't seem like I just got there and was looking for a report.

saltfly · 04-25-2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by flyvice11787

Larry, I did say that the guy never even greeted me. I don't like to answer "Any luck?" to someone who I don't even know because my telling him "No" means I have to lie to the guy, and "Yes" would tip him off too much for a small spot. If it was reversed, I'll usually greet someone I don't know first, and if I get a reply, then I might venture to ask if he was having any luck. Usually, I'll wait for the guy to leave the spot and ask how he did, so it doesn't seem like I just got there and was looking for a report.

Have you ever thought that that "was" his greeting?JEEEZ!

BigFish · 04-25-2009, 08:44 AM

As I said Harry..."Any Luck?" is my standard greeting to a fellow fisherman. Just because he asked it does not mean he is trying to learn all your secrets. Just being friendly. I won't be changing my greeting.....like it or not....thats who I am.

"Any Luck?"

WESTPORTMAFIA · 04-25-2009, 08:42 AM

Just wear camo and nobody will see you fishing in the secret spot.

Back Beach · 04-26-2009, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

"Don't fish angry".........Redlite 2008

First off, I noticed on another thread you were counting/observing herring....now you're quoting eel fishermen....what gives here? You ok?

stiff tip · 04-26-2009, 05:52 AM

i like

your respond,

as i c it u could have said to him ,so wtf do u realy expect me to tell a rere like u any thing about wtf is going on???.

...or u could have said nothing ,and played like a dummy.u could play either role

(imo) get u meds checked

flyvice11787 · 04-26-2009, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by stiff tip

i like

your respond,

as i c it u could have said to him ,so wtf do u realy expect me to tell a rere like u any thing about wtf is going on???.

...or u could have said nothing ,and played like a dummy.u could play either role

(imo) get u meds checked

Somehow, I think a lot of people think I lit up this guy and ripped him a new one. This is the entire exchange.

Tool-"Any luck ?"
Me-no answer
Tool-"ANY LUCK ?" (as if I may not have heard the first time)

I never uttered a peep. Played deaf, made a few more casts and left because the bite was pretty much over. Everything in my post after that was just what i was thinking to myself which became an internet rant because this guy was probably sleeping in his feety pajamas through the best part of the tide

.

Pete F. · 04-26-2009, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by flyvice11787

Somehow, I think a lot of people think I lit up this guy and ripped him a new one. This is the entire exchange.

Tool-"Any luck ?"
Me-no answer
Tool-"ANY LUCK ?" (as if I may not have heard the first time)

I never uttered a peep. Played deaf, made a few more casts and left because the bite was pretty much over. Everything in my post after that was just what i was thinking to myself which became an internet rant because this guy was probably sleeping in his feety pajamas through the best part of the tide

.

Now I understand, you did'nt say anything to him because he was a normal human being. Not that I fit that description.
My brother caught fish last night in RI, so I think it is fishing time. I can tell they were small because he did'nt tell how big they were.

Gunpowder · 04-26-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by flyvice11787

Somehow, I think a lot of people think I lit up this guy and ripped him a new one. This is the entire exchange.

Tool-"Any luck ?"
Me-no answer
Tool-"ANY LUCK ?" (as if I may not have heard the first time)

I never uttered a peep. Played deaf, made a few more casts and left because the bite was pretty much over. Everything in my post after that was just what i was thinking to myself which became an internet rant because this guy was probably sleeping in his feety pajamas through the best part of the tide

.

maybe its just me, but if anyone is willing to talk to me while im out fishing and im not into a fish at that moment, ill put my rod down for five minutes and have a nice chat. i find it a nice way to relax and possibly learn something new as im still young and have a lot to learn about the sport and the spots that i fish. 9/10 times that i have done that, the person that has asked me quote "any luck" is the person that i end up chatting with for 5-10 mins and finding out what he did to hook up with fish recently. for instance, i was on the vineyard fishing last summer and a guy came up to me at night and asked just that. i said nah nothing really and ive been out here for 2 hours and tried just about every plug in my bag. he said he had been out ther the past few nights and tried everything too until last night he rigged up a teaser in front of his danny and was hitting them HARD. i took his advice immediately and within hour or so, had a 32# on the rocks. i would have never tried that if i had not engaged in any conversation... i always have felt if you are nice to someone, they will show u that exact same gratitude. too many "spots" are known these days and the people that you meet at those spots are obviouslllyyyy there for a reason ---> cause they know fish are there. now why you wouldnt try to engage in a little chit chat to see how things are and if that person was using a plug that you werent to catch fish, then i dont know what to tell ya.... fishing has always supposed to be fun for me and i never mind helping someone out.

and btw, "any luck" would be the first thing that came out of my mouth too

bassballer · 04-26-2009, 04:19 PM

"any luck' is basically the universal hello between fisherman. I seriously doubt this guy was looking for any info from you at all. D*@k move if you ask me.

Rappin Mikey · 04-26-2009, 04:33 PM

I'm just gonna start greeting people with "Hey F you, you F'n F!"

Gobi · 04-26-2009, 06:01 PM

Not too wise to call the guy out as a tool for asking a question we all ask on a forum where people come to learn more about the sport they love by asking and answering questions. You can either read all the posts and say, "I'm right and everyone else is wrong," or think about what people took the time to write.

Life's too short for being a miserable SOB, you know?