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03-27-2009, 08:30 PM
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Old Guy
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go to La. you tell me, I've been there. I've nailed 2x4s in houses that had been under 20' of water, I've walked on slabs of concrete that had everything that was on it in piles of sorted %$%$%$%$ in the neighborhood streets waiting for months for the EPA to get rid of it. Those piles existed only because of volunteer groups that paid for their own efforts to come and assist in the cleanup because our government didn't have the wherewithal to see outside of the metro area and help their fellow citizens
Fargo has topped the all time recorded flood level of 40.1
with 42' above flood stage and stay there thru Wednesday night. That's worse than katrina. The only thing that makes it anyway near better is that less people live there.
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03-28-2009, 07:23 AM
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Also known as OAK
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Location: Westlery, RI
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Originally Posted by striperman36
with 42' above flood stage and stay there thru Wednesday night. That's worse than katrina. The only thing that makes it anyway near better is that less people live there.
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I don't know if I'd judge the two based on flood height alone...
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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03-28-2009, 07:34 AM
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Old Guy
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
I don't know if I'd judge the two based on flood height alone...
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Yeah one has ice the other had wind, how tall is your house?
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03-28-2009, 07:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by striperman36
Fargo has topped the all time recorded flood level of 40.1 with 42' above flood stage and stay there thru Wednesday night. That's worse than katrina. The only thing that makes it anyway near better is that less people live there.
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Worse under what measurement, that the water was higher? That makes no sense.
When you look at the entire situation, Katrina is much worse in terms of net destruction and suffering.
The population makes a big difference here, as does the slow rise of the river which gives the National Guard, who are on the job, a good amount of lead time to manage the situation.
Sure if your life is upturned it sucks personally, but the thread is about why Obama isn't fixing the situation, which is just a bull%$%$%$%$ argument to fake outrage. Buck and Beans are sounding more and more like Air America every day...
-spence
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03-28-2009, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Worse under what measurement, that the water was higher? That makes no sense.
When you look at the entire situation, Katrina is much worse in terms of net destruction and suffering.
The population makes a big difference here, as does the slow rise of the river which gives the National Guard, who are on the job, a good amount of lead time to manage the situation.
Sure if your life is upturned it sucks personally, but the thread is about why Obama isn't fixing the situation, which is just a bull%$%$%$%$ argument to fake outrage. Buck and Beans are sounding more and more like Air America every day...
-spence
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My thread was somewhat in jest. I was just using it to point out a little bit of media hypocracy. Katrina turned into a major Bush failure, I feel because of the media's effort to drive that point home..
The National Guard are on the job because the Governor is not an idiot as was not the case for Katrina.
Fargo had the same set of options that New Orleans had they just chose to use them.
Last edited by buckman; 03-28-2009 at 09:26 AM..
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03-28-2009, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Fargo had the same set of options that New Orleans had they just chose to use them.
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That's simply not true at all. Fargo has a population of about 100,000 residents compared to the millions in the Gulf area, not to mention the economic issues that made it more difficult for tens of thousands to evacuate.
This isn't to say that local officials aren't to blame for the Katrina mess, they certainly are...but you're comparing apples and oranges.
-spence
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03-28-2009, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
My thread was somewhat in jest. I was just using it to point out a little bit of media hypocracy. Katrina turned into a major Bush failure, I feel because of the media's effort to drive that point home..
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Yes, it's all the media's fault
Katrina was a Bush failure because the Federal government let a massive breakdown in the state and local governments go unchecked for too long, allowing a very bad situation to get much worse. It's not like Mayor Nagin got a lot of great PR over the situation, the media made him out to be an idiot.
-spence
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03-28-2009, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Yes, it's all the media's fault
Katrina was a Bush failure because the Federal government let a massive breakdown in the state and local governments go unchecked for too long, allowing a very bad situation to get much worse. It's not like Mayor Nagin got a lot of great PR over the situation, the media made him out to be an idiot.
-spence
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So Bush should have overrode the lack of leadership at the state level and sent in the National Guard? Remember we all thought for a day or two that New Orleans had been spared.
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