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Old 03-23-2009, 10:36 AM   #1
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It's going to have to be a process and shouldn't be jumped into.

Right on Slip, so no need for anyone to get overly alarmed until the facts come out. So far I've seen no facts here, just suppositions.

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Old 03-23-2009, 10:39 AM   #2
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This is what i got back from the NPS. I applaud them for getting back with me so quickly. I think i sent the email to him on saturday morning. I was surprised to get a responce this fast.

Dear Mr. Cerny,
Thank you for your email concerning the use of lead lures in nationalparks. The recent announcement of the National Park Service aboutlead-based hunting and fishing equipment focused on halting the use ofthose items in our own activities, with the ultimate goal of removing leadfrom the environment. Before any restrictions are placed on fishermen orhunters, parks will follow a process that will include notification ofproposed rules and the opportunity for comment by interested members of thepublic. I have sent a copy of this email to Superintendent George Prices at CapeCod National Seashore for his information, and to let him know of yourconcerns. Thanks for your interest, and for your support of the National ParkService!

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Phil SheridanAssistant Regional Director,
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:46 AM   #3
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This is what i got back from the NPS. I applaud them for getting back with me so quickly. I think i sent the email to him on saturday morning. I was surprised to get a responce this fast.

Dear Mr. Cerny,
Thank you for your email concerning the use of lead lures in nationalparks. The recent announcement of the National Park Service aboutlead-based hunting and fishing equipment focused on halting the use ofthose items in our own activities, with the ultimate goal of removing leadfrom the environment. Before any restrictions are placed on fishermen orhunters, parks will follow a process that will include notification ofproposed rules and the opportunity for comment by interested members of thepublic. I have sent a copy of this email to Superintendent George Prices at CapeCod National Seashore for his information, and to let him know of yourconcerns. Thanks for your interest, and for your support of the National ParkService!

Sincerely,
Phil SheridanAssistant Regional Director,
Communications National Park Service Northeast Region
200 Chestnut StreetPhiladelphia, PA 19106
215-597-0865

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Old 03-23-2009, 11:11 AM   #4
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Get use to it. It's gonna happen. No lead. Not in jigs, not in sinkers, not in plugs.

I saw a study that showed how much lead gets on your hands just handling sinkers when you put on one your line...should you eat a sandwich afterwards without washing with warm water and soap for 20 seconds.... you are now poisoning yourself is significant. Perhaps this is why bottom fishermen seem less intelligent then most other fishermen (just kidding)

What about all the comms and Striper cup yahoos who support yo-yoing? Actually dumping hundred of # of lead directly INTO fish, many of which escape. These fish digest or pass the lead but some of it has to be absorbed in the fish. Then either get re-caught and eaten OR spawn. Does this lead poisoning effect the eggs of the young? Too many serious questions, best to be conservative and stop all lead. There are substitutes.

It will take a while to phase everything out, if I had to guess...probably 5 years.

BTW, last time I looked lead cost more than .60/lb, it is more like a buck+. Perhaps you van get it for .60 if you buy it by the ton.
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Get use to it. It's gonna happen. No lead. Not in jigs, not in sinkers, not in plugs.

I saw a study that showed how much lead gets on your hands just handling sinkers when you put on one your line...should you eat a sandwich afterwards without washing with warm water and soap for 20 seconds.... you are now poisoning yourself is significant. Perhaps this is why bottom fishermen seem less intelligent then most other fishermen (just kidding)

What about all the comms and Striper cup yahoos who support yo-yoing? Actually dumping hundred of # of lead directly INTO fish, many of which escape. These fish digest or pass the lead but some of it has to be absorbed in the fish. Then either get re-caught and eaten OR spawn. Does this lead poisoning effect the eggs of the young? Too many serious questions, best to be conservative and stop all lead. There are substitutes.

It will take a while to phase everything out, if I had to guess...probably 5 years.

BTW, last time I looked lead cost more than .60/lb, it is more like a buck+. Perhaps you van get it for .60 if you buy it by the ton.
According to that I should be dead or derranged.(or really stupid)
I do know lead is poison and it needs to be phased out.
I just don't think we need to jump to conclusions here.
There are no facts.
For instance it says National Parks.
But it does not say SALTWATER.
There are thousands of parks and most of them are not on the salt.
If it's okay to use lures with lead encased in them on the Quabbin Res. which is used for drinking water then why wouldn't it be okay to use encased lead in the ocean?
I also understand that Maddmatt is right. Common sense plays no part in the federal government. Neither does reasoning.
I see no way for them to enforce this.
I use lead sinkers ALL the time and would not be opposed to encasing them in plastic or another material at minimal cost.
But to pay $25 for a 4 oz. sinker is out of the question!
I lose several a week!
Maybe it's time to get my scuba license?
How many times have you dropped tackle in the sand never to be found again?
All I have to say is if we are paying big bucks for tackle made from precious metals they better re-think the ban they have on the use of metal detectors on our beaches.
I think I'm gonna go with Raven on drilling rocks for weights.
Hey the Indians used rocks.
The way things are going in this economy the last thing they should be thinking about is putting more people out of business.
I feel our energy should be put to better use, like fighting for access.
In the meantime I promise not to let the kids lick my pyramid sinkers.


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