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StriperTalk! All things Striper |
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03-19-2009, 05:05 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Originally Posted by angler229
I just did a quick count and there were 370 fish over 30lbs weighed in during the striper cup last year. I'm going to guess, for every fish over 30lbs weighed in there was 2 under thirty weighed in so we can estimate that there were about 1150 fish weighed in. Now I'm guessing at least half of those fish would have been killed regardless, so that puts it 575 fish weighed in just because of the Striper Cup. In my mind this is just a drop in the bucket in terms of the kill of large fish, particularly for something that takes place over 5 months. And, looking at this in a purely scientific perspective the number of fish killed for this tournament is insignificant. I think there are far greater problems facing stripers than this tournament.
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There were more 30+ fish killed the last several years in one of those day-long pogie blitzes in NJ, the Great Gamefish State, then in all 3 Striper Cups combined. By far. Most of the guys fishing for the top clubs won't weigh in a fish under 30. No one with any savvy is going to think that they will win a weekly prize with a fish under 25 lbs so I think that your guesstimate of total fish weighed in is on the high side.
And many of the guys fishing for the top clubs are Mass pinhookers, so those fish are dead anyway.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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03-19-2009, 05:37 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Fall River
Posts: 238
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
There were more 30+ fish killed the last several years in one of those day-long pogie blitzes in NJ, the Great Gamefish State, then in all 3 Striper Cups combined. By far. Most of the guys fishing for the top clubs won't weigh in a fish under 30. No one with any savvy is going to think that they will win a weekly prize with a fish under 25 lbs so I think that your guesstimate of total fish weighed in is on the high side.
And many of the guys fishing for the top clubs are Mass pinhookers, so those fish are dead anyway.
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BINGO
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rather be fishin'
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03-25-2009, 08:27 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,038
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Rationalizing ones behavior
Disturbing how folks use the behavior of other's to justify their own.
The NJ bunker dunkers and Mass pinhookers may kill far more bass than the Striper Cup does, but will that offer any solace when the stocks are pushed too far and collapse?
It won't matter who killed the most when we can't fish for them anymore.
Jon
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03-26-2009, 01:12 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Originally Posted by WoodyCT
Disturbing how folks use the behavior of other's to justify their own.
The NJ bunker dunkers and Mass pinhookers may kill far more bass than the Striper Cup does, but will that offer any solace when the stocks are pushed too far and collapse?
It won't matter who killed the most when we can't fish for them anymore.
Jon
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I have seen no evidence that the sky is falling. Just MHO.
Above average spawns in 2001, 2003, 2005 and 2007, and bear in mind that the record spawns of the 90s raised what was considered an average spawn from 8.0 to 12.0.
http://dnr.maryland.gov/dnrnews/pres...7/100407c.html
My own fishing experience also tells me that the stocks are a long way from crashing.
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03-26-2009, 01:30 PM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Originally Posted by Mike P
IMy own fishing experience also tells me that the stocks are a long way from crashing.
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No doubt.
What sometimes affects one's perception is the distribution of fish on any given year. If they don't show heavily in one's local area, one may(erroneously) assume the stocks are in trouble.
I've said this before, but if you didn't experience the mid to late 80's fishery, you may have a clouded perception of how good the fishing really is right now. There's a bigger number and size distribution of fish right now than we've had in 20 years. I feel the next world record will be taken within three years.
Individual success in great part comes down to where they actually set up shop each year and nobody can predict that. Case in point=CC Canal last year.
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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03-26-2009, 08:04 PM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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i dunno,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
i gotts this ONE or THREE li'l UDL's
that haven't failed me for 3 straight years,
prolly be just my luck this year, the Striper Highway
takes a detour away from me little slice of Nirvana Morone
only time and the feesh will TELL,,,,,,,,

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