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02-14-2009, 09:46 PM
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survival %'s ?
thats a gorgeous fish, and it was very commendable releasing it,
however i wonder what its odds of recuperating were after being held up by the gill like that. quite a bit of pressure there.
too bad it wasn't supported horizontally, or w/ a boga grip.
any thoughts ?
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02-15-2009, 01:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by intrepid24
however i wonder what its odds of recuperating were after being held up by the gill like that. quite a bit of pressure there.
too bad it wasn't supported horizontally, or w/ a boga grip.
any thoughts ?
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I was thinking the same thing. But then again it has a hell lot more chance of living when they put it back in the water then if it went to the cooler. Ive seen bass with 5-6" holes in their sides with organs visible that fought like hell. I think bass are a lot tougher then people think.
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02-15-2009, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cheferson
I was thinking the same thing. But then again it has a hell lot more chance of living when they put it back in the water then if it went to the cooler. Ive seen bass with 5-6" holes in their sides with organs visible that fought like a hell. I think bass are a lot tougher then people think.
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i agree
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02-15-2009, 03:48 PM
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I don't trust the measurements of a live struggling cow in a Jon Boat in the dark to be accurate-- just estimates...
Of course always hard to tell fish weight from any pic! -- yet I've won quite a few bets with friends doing just that. Huge Bass here for sure! ... but to my eye lacks the super- full/ grossly- huge belly of the 78 lb. record fish. To me she's exactly how I see Tonys' Bertha or Cintos' fish: approx. 73 lbs.
VERY happy about the release!
But: NEVER handle a Cows' Gill area at all! ... or weigh it suspended by the mouth at all! ... if intending to release it! Loved the Skinner book for the most part... but very surprised he still lip- weighs big Bass he's intending to release afterward? (IS exact weight vs. eye- ball estimate so necessary with released big Bass... esp. to guys who find & land a lot?  )
THAT said: I do agree with Chef & Bart-- even mishandled & abused during release... big Bass are very hardy creatures (& survive release way more than stats. say IMO)! Oxygen depletion/ time out of water before release is the single biggest factor limiting that fishs' survival rate! (you want that picture-- BE PREPARED ALWAYS!... so you can do it in a flash! (not in 5 minutes!  )
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02-18-2009, 10:03 AM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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[QUOTE=LeCounts1099;664762]I don't trust the measurements of a live struggling cow in a Jon Boat in the dark to be accurate-- just estimates...
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Have you ever had a big bass struggle mightily when you landed her? I haven't. They're not like bluefish or schoolies, they may flop a few times, but they are easy to measure. Granted I have never taken an 80 pounder
The big thing here to me is that this guy is not claiming his fish to be a WR, and he released her. No matter how bad you are at measuring that fish is going to be over 80, I mean to mess it up that bad you'd have to wrap the tape around your wrist and the fish
And how can we even speculate if the fish lived or not? If that fish died, the damage was probably already done, fighting a dinosaur like that is probably similar to running your 90 year old grandmother on a treadmill for 5 hours.
Hell of a fish either way.
-dave
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02-18-2009, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LeCounts1099
I don't trust the measurements of a live struggling cow in a Jon Boat in the dark to be accurate-- just estimates... 
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Have you ever had a big bass struggle mightily when you landed her? I haven't. They're not like bluefish or schoolies, they may flop a few times, but they are easy to measure. Granted I have never taken an 80 pounder
The big thing here to me is that this guy is not claiming his fish to be a WR, and he released her. No matter how bad you are at measuring that fish is going to be over 80, I mean to mess it up that bad you'd have to wrap the tape around your wrist and the fish
And how can we even speculate if the fish lived or not? If that fish died, the damage was probably already done, fighting a dinosaur like that is probably similar to running your 90 year old grandmother on a treadmill for 5 hours.
Hell of a fish either way.
-dave
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02-18-2009, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Canalman
And how can we even speculate if the fish lived or not? If that fish died, the damage was probably already done, fighting a dinosaur like that is probably similar to running your 90 year old grandmother on a treadmill for 5 hours.
Hell of a fish either way.
-dave
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I don't know if you can compare an 80lb bass to an elderly human. It's been reported that stripers well over 100lbs have been netted, so is an 80 lber really equivalent to a 90 yo woman? I'm no scientist, but I would imagine that a fish that large would be pretty healthy and strong to survive in the ocean with all the predators out there. If you believe McReynolds story about the fight his fish gave, then you'd have to conclude that big fish are much stronger in comparison to a human at the same relative point in their lifespan. But what do I know?
Kudos to the guys for releasing such a nice fish.
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02-18-2009, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fishbones
I don't know if you can compare an 80lb bass to an elderly human. It's been reported that stripers well over 100lbs have been netted, so is an 80 lber really equivalent to a 90 yo woman? I'm no scientist, but I would imagine that a fish that large would be pretty healthy and strong to survive in the ocean with all the predators out there. If you believe McReynolds story about the fight his fish gave, then you'd have to conclude that big fish are much stronger in comparison to a human at the same relative point in their lifespan. But what do I know?
Kudos to the guys for releasing such a nice fish.
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Thanks for taking me completely litterally
People have lived to be 121... and I still wouldn't run my 70 year old grandmother on the treadmill for 5 hours
I have talked to a few people who have caught 60's and many have said that the fight was short and easy. One strong run, turn and come in, Iron Mike said his came in belly up. Not trying to say that I know any of that for a fact, but you can't argue that catching and fighting that old fish didn't do her some damage.
Still, I commend the angler for making the release attempt. 
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