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02-04-2009, 11:05 AM
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In his defense, he did admit he screwed up. How much should one shame someone who has expressed regret and wants to facilitate redress.
All this talk of infallibility and whistles, none of us are perfect. It is indeed troubling what people can hide but to what end does this corrode those dynamics that lie entirely outside the scope of the issue. Quite frankly, I was more concerned with the ethics behind Daschle's coziness with several health insurance companies and why he is getting the free limo service in the first place. What favors does that entail. Its the culture that frightens me, and washington's poisoned culture of influence peddling knows no partisan boundaries. There are things Obama and Daschle did not see eye to eye on, and he wanted to show the health insurance lobby that he is willing to compromise. Well Daschle did not work out, he expressed regret, so I think the natural progressive nature of things is to move on. To say this is just a sign of the next 4 years comes off as a bit abortive. Obama has done some things in the past 3 weeks that should have been done years ago. This is another classic case of the news providing us with a story with far more bark than bite.
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02-04-2009, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44
Well Daschle did not work out, he expressed regret, so I think the natural progressive nature of things is to move on. To say this is just a sign of the next 4 years comes off as a bit abortive. Obama has done some things in the past 3 weeks that should have been done years ago. This is another classic case of the news providing us with a story with far more bark than bite.
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Move on? It's a good idea to move on when it's the Democrats screwing up, but when it's a Republican, they can still be bashed years later? Isn't this some sort of a double standard. "Let's just act like this little indescetion never happened".
As I stated earlier, Obama is going to be more closely scrutinized than any President in history based on where the country is right now. So far, he's had a less than stellar first couple of weeks. He should be called out when he screws up just as anyone else would be. There's no need for people to make excuses for him or rationalize why he did what he did. President of the United States of America is the highest elected office in the world and should be treated as such.
And if you re-read my earlier statement, I didn't say this is a sign of things to come. I said that it could
be a long four years if he isn't more careful with the people he surrounds himself with. I'm more than willing to give him time to show what he can do and I'm hoping his Presidency is an unqualified success.
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02-04-2009, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fishbones
Move on? It's a good idea to move on when it's the Democrats screwing up, but when it's a Republican, they can still be bashed years later? Isn't this some sort of a double standard. "Let's just act like this little indescetion never happened"
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What more is there really to say about the issue. The guy withdrew his name out of the hat because He cheated on his taxes. It came to light and the chief executive took personal responsibility. He admitted he "screwed up". That admission in itself is like a cool breeze in a stuffy attic. However, were not exactly talking about subversion of the constitution or anything. Before we play victim, lets wait for the felony.
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Originally Posted by fishbones
He should be called out when he screws up just as anyone else would be.
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He has and he will. After all, he is going to be the most scrutinized president in history. Sad this scrutiny found itself 8 years too late. 
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02-04-2009, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44
He has and he will. After all, he is going to be the most scrutinized president in history. Sad this scrutiny found itself 8 years too late. 
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yes, Bush was hardly scrutinized.
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02-04-2009, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
yes, Bush was hardly scrutinized.
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....by his mother, Barbara.... 
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02-04-2009, 03:38 PM
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Obama knew he didn't pay taxes and still tried to push him thru, it was not until everyone knew that he apologized.
That being said, he did stand up and take the blame  ....
But why would he be approved knowing his taxes were not paid? Whats next?
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