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Old 01-18-2009, 12:42 PM   #1
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More importantly, LOST season debut is on Wednesday. Bush is old news.
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Old 01-18-2009, 12:43 PM   #2
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This isn't even really about Bush.

It's more of a philosophical question.

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Old 01-19-2009, 11:27 AM   #3
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This isn't even really about Bush.

It's more of a philosophical question.

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I think your question is a good one,,, and not sure can easily be answered,,,, Set aside politics... it is a mess no matter how you look at it,,,

No matter what president was in office on Sept 11th , they would have had to make some VERY difficult choices....

The middle east is a not a place where normal diplomacy, and rational thinking work,,,, Deceit is a huge problem the U.S. faces even with countries who claim to be our allies... Of course The U.S. has its own share as well,,,

Anyone here can claim they could have made other choices that would have clearly solved all the worlds problems but we don't know all the details,,,,, No really knows... Unless someone here has been in those top secret presidential briefings they would only be speculating..

Strategically,,,I think Iraq was a thought that was only complicated by the unexpected occurrence of Sept 11th,,, And if I recall almost every American wanted to bomb Afghanistan after Sept 11th...and rightfully so....

Without a doubt Obama's eyes have been opened to the middle east and who knows maybe by the end of his 4 years we will be defending Isreal after they bomb Iran....

Never the less Ahmadinejad does not translate into "I'm-a-nut-job" without good reason.
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:57 AM   #4
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I think your question is a good one,,, and not sure can easily be answered,,,, Set aside politics... it is a mess no matter how you look at it,,,
The reason why I focus on the "net benefit" is how else can we judge if our leadership is being successful? Everything else seems to require oversimplified assumptions to a very complex situation.

It's precisely that it is a difficult question to answer that I find it interesting how people are so willing to do just that.

Obama might face similar challenges in the next 4 years, and the cost to Americans in terms of debt and lives could be steep. Are we willing to write such sacrifice off the books because it's too easy for most people to just flip channels?

It smells like someone is cooking the books, leaving just another bubble to burst.

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Well... how many of them have died since 9-11??? War's success is based on ratios.
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More importantly, LOST season debut is on Wednesday. Bush is old news.
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