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Plug Building - Got Wood? Got Plug?

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Old 01-17-2009, 12:09 PM   #1
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..when you guys have problems with "that clear coat between the paint and finish epoxy"..is it a problem getting the epoxy to lay out well on the plug an over a scratch coat or is it an issue later discovered with poor adhesion and peeling?just curious, I realize that there are a whole host of things that can go wrong...."
When things peeled on me, the failure was between the createx and the primer, the epoxy stayed stuck to the createx ok. Hasn't happened since I changed my primer to ZSpar undercoat......though I'm starting to wonder why I just don't prime with white createx after sealing and eliminate a step.

When the epoxy/scratch coat stuff went bad, it was an adhesion problem with the epoxy pulling away in spots (system three claimed it was because of "wetting agents" in the scratch coat). It is less of an issue over just the createx, but still occurs if any oil or silicone gets into the process (like on your brush, mixing stick, mixing cup, measuring syringes, hands, or thru God's wrath....so go to church). System Three Clear Coat was the fussiest, probably because it is the thinnest of the epoxies I tried.
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:44 PM   #2
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one more question that just occured to me...maybe this should be in a different thread....which System3 epoxy were you using? they have a variety of products...I use the waterbased polyurethane(mainly because it's an exterior marine grade product) for painting additives and sealing the paint job...but the finish epoxy that I've been using is the SB-112... it's the one used for surfboards....

I've noticed a lot of compatibility issues over the years with many products....some will create a surface residue as a result of the curing process, there have been many instances where I tried to put one coat over a previous coat of another product(both waterbased) and they just don't like each other...and of course...if you eat a bag of chips, handle your plugs and then try to epoxy them...there will be problems...
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