Surf Spin Rod for Braided Line

[mikecc]

Originally Posted by Saltheart

How many guides will that SSU have built that way and how big are the smallest guides near the tip Mike?

Fuji BLCAG 20,16,(2)-12 ,(3)-10 & a 10 tip
I don't want to go with any #8 because I see to much failure in the rings.

[scottw]

no expert, only posting this because I don't know how many guys are fishing this setup or building them but thought you might want to hear feedback

Mike, I used 20-16-12-12-12-12-10tip on a 1266 loomis BMNAG's

42"reel to gathering guide then
17 3/4...9....8 1/2...8 1/4....7 1/4....7

I'm sure that this can be improved by someone more knowledgable

I've been throwing this w/ a bailess spheros 14000 and 50 lb power pro for about 100 trips this year and not a hitch, not even a single wind knot which I know causes a lot of headaches for guys and the only plug snapped off was my own fault rushing a cast ...smaller fish are fun because of the sensetivity of the top and lager fish seem to really have their weight distributed down the blank...it's a very light and powerful rod...I'd like to make an 11' this winter...

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by mikecc

Fuji BLCAG 20,16,(2)-12 ,(3)-10 & a 10 tip
I don't want to go with any #8 because I see to much failure in the rings.

Mike, just to avoid confusion, isn't this a "lowrider" setup, not a "new concept" setup (as you referred to in your initial post).

Likewise, Scottw, I think you've built a lowrider set up using new concept (BMNAG) guides, which is fine since it works. Fuji's instructions for their new concept guide spacing would use a larger guide much closer to the reel seat.

Again, there are now three accepted ways to set up a long spinning rod.....the standard time tested "cone of flight system", the more recent "new concept" system, and the still newer distance casting "low rider" system. It seems agreed that casting distance is best with a properly setup low rider system, but setting it up properly on rods less than 12 feet is still a work in progress (particularly when employing a wide spool reel like the emcast) and there remains the disadvantage of a long spool to gathering guide distance that distributes the load when fighting a large fish way up the blank.