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10-08-2008, 09:03 AM
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sick of bluefish
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Thanks John, saved me the reply.
Likwid, I can only tell you how I feel personally. I knew some shady characters growing up, kids that were involved in things I didnt believe in. I hung with a pretty wild crowd so these people were pretty out there. i chose not to hang around with people because they werent what I was about, sometimes at the expense of being a wimp in my friends eyes.
Obama, TO ME, as a reflection of his character has associated with people that are reprehensible. I do know what Ayers did and stand for, I actually did a presentation in High School on the Weather Underground, a POSITIVE, presentation. But now that I have matured I see the flaw in this behavior. Obama should have as well and should have avoided Ayers and Wright.
I do not think "pal around" is beyond any of the stretchs either candidate is throwing out there on the issues.
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10-08-2008, 09:30 AM
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Old Guy
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McCain 'palled around' with Friggin Keating, another wallet grabber of the deregulation kind.
Which is worse enemy of the people an anarchist or one that has the laws bent to their benefit so they can profit off of the unwashed masses?
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10-08-2008, 09:47 AM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
I knew some shady characters growing up, kids that were involved in things I didnt believe in. I hung with a pretty wild crowd so these people were pretty out there. i chose not to hang around with people because they werent what I was about, sometimes at the expense of being a wimp in my friends eyes.
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Jimmy, Obama only associated with Ayers decades after this behavior!
Your analogy is moot!
-spence
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10-08-2008, 09:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Jimmy, Obama only associated with Ayers decades after this behavior!
Your analogy is moot!
-spence
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yes Moot and its one of the few pieces of the puzzzle that the GOP can use against Obama.
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10-08-2008, 09:58 AM
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sick of bluefish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Jimmy, Obama only associated with Ayers decades after this behavior!
Your analogy is moot!
-spence
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No its not, its a judgement call. Obama should have shown better judgement. He is a politician and must understand the implications of his actions and associations.
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10-08-2008, 10:10 AM
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and flying your family to the bahamas 5 times on a private jet that is owned by a special interest group is not bad judgment? 
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10-08-2008, 10:18 AM
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Old Guy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
and flying your family to the bahamas 5 times on a private jet that is owned by a special interest group is not bad judgment? 
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Totally farking bad judgement. Should have used the Bud Airship instead.
That person is totally Mr. DeRegulation. Send him to Afghanistan to talk to Osama, without pre-conditions.
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10-08-2008, 11:15 AM
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Registered Grandpa
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Imho, pretty much a tie.
I think the McCaine proposal to use 300 billion, if it is taken from the 700 billion rescue plan,
to reduce real estate values to true values by paying the difference in troubled mortgages to equalize the market is worth looking at.
When it comes to Obama's associations with Ayers, Rev. Wrigth, Father Flager and other questionables,
i like the old addage, "birds of a feather flock together."
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10-08-2008, 11:24 AM
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DDG-51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by justplugit
I think the McCaine proposal to use 300 billion, if it is taken from the 700 billion rescue plan,
to reduce real estate values to true values by paying the difference in troubled mortgages to equalize the market is worth looking at.
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I know something has to be done, but like a fool I've been paying my mortgage payments in full and on time. It  burns me up to know some of those who haven't , will get a new loan and reduced monthly payment. 
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10-08-2008, 10:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
No its not, its a judgement call. Obama should have shown better judgement. He is a politician and must understand the implications of his actions and associations.
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Then explain to me, if this is so important, why Ayers wasn't seen as a person of great contraversy within the city of Chigago up until now?
He seems to actually have been quite respected in the community for his work and dedication.
Jimmy, you're being punked by a Karl Rove strawman.
-spence
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10-08-2008, 11:09 AM
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this whole country has been punked for the last 8 years spence.
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10-08-2008, 11:26 AM
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sick of bluefish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Then explain to me, if this is so important, why Ayers wasn't seen as a person of great contraversy within the city of Chigago up until now?
He seems to actually have been quite respected in the community for his work and dedication.
Jimmy, you're being punked by a Karl Rove strawman.
-spence
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Come on, he is a topic becuase of Obamas association with hi. And I punk for no one, I make up my own opinions on the importance of the association.
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10-08-2008, 11:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
Come on, he is a topic becuase of Obamas association with hi. And I punk for no one, I make up my own opinions on the importance of the association.
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Up until they GOP decided they could use him to smear Obama, he wasn't seen as a contraversial figure in Chicago...he was a pretty mainstream educational professor.
Do you think parents were letting their kids be educated by a terrorist?
What a joke.
-spence
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10-08-2008, 11:43 AM
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Registered Grandpa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
...he was a pretty mainstream educational professor.
-spence
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Geez, a guy who was tied to trying to bomb our own country,
and has said he wasn't sorry and wished he had done more becomes a MAINSTREAM educational professor?
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