Debate #1

[spence]

I can't find a reason why McCain would think he can help in the process, unless it's to help convince the dissenting Republicans to get on board. There's more GOP opposition to this bill than Dem from the looks of it.

Wasn't there a Presidential election during the Civil War?

Sounds like McCain is putting the campaign and not country first.

-spence

[Nebe]

oh wait.. he is a maverick. thats right.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

I can't find a reason why McCain would think he can help in the process, unless it's to help convince the dissenting Republicans to get on board. There's more GOP opposition to this bill than Dem from the looks of it.

Wasn't there a Presidential election during the Civil War?

Sounds like McCain is putting the campaign and not country first.

-spence

Then perhaps McCain, as a senior Republican Senator, known for reaching across the aisle AND even going against the "R" grain, perhaps he CAN facilitate this in some fashion.

Sounds to me McCain is putting the Country first and not the Campaign. And this is not a first for McCain. I don't always agree with what he does but Duty, Honor, Country have FAR more weight with him than just about ANY of the other blowhards in a 50 mile radius of the Washington Mall

Bottom line it needs to get done. I think we are better off with the R word than the D word (and I'm not talkin' Repub -v- Demo)..

Of Course, if Obama is needed, they'll just call him or something.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Then perhaps McCain, as a senior Republican Senator, known for reaching across the aisle AND even going against the "R" grain, perhaps he CAN facilitate this in some fashion.

Sounds to me McCain is putting the Country first and not the Campaign. And this is not a first for McCain. I don't always agree with what he does but Duty, Honor, Country have FAR more weight with him than just about ANY of the other blowhards in a 50 mile radius of the Washington Mall

Bottom line it needs to get done. I think we are better off with the R word than the D word (and I'm not talkin' Repub -v- Demo)..

Of Course, if Obama is needed, they'll just call him or something.

I used to agree with the duty and honor, but the McCain I've seen the past 6 months is a robot driven by political operatives.

The reporting has been consistent that there has been a solid bi-partisan discussion going on all week and that legislation is getting close. Like I mentioned, the biggest opposition seems to be from the GOP. I don't see how McCain really helps here.

-spence

[Bronko]

Originally Posted by spence

I can't find a reason why McCain would think he can help in the process, unless it's to help convince the dissenting Republicans to get on board. There's more GOP opposition to this bill than Dem from the looks of it.

Wasn't there a Presidential election during the Civil War?

Sounds like McCain is putting the campaign and not country first.

-spence

It appears to be a perfect example of the "leadership" the left has been clamoring about. Obama fell right in line behind McCain and is being led to Washington to try to straighten this mess out.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Bronko

It appears to be a perfect example of the "leadership" the left has been clamoring about. Obama fell right in line behind McCain and is being led to Washington to try to straighten this mess out.

Actually it was Obama who called McCain to issue a joint statement on the issue, which it appears that they agreed to do, then an hour later McCain makes the announcement that he was going to suspend his campaign.

Then he tells David Leterman he had to cancel his appearance because he has to fly immediately to Washington, but instead spends the afternoon with an interview. Letterman was obviously ticked off, the video is pretty funny.

They are both headed to Washington now because President Bush asked that they come.

I think your opinion might be based on bad intel.

-spence

[Bronko]

Originally Posted by spence

Actually it was Obama who called McCain to issue a joint statement on the issue, which it appears that they agreed to do, then an hour later McCain makes the announcement that he was going to suspend his campaign.

Then he tells David Leterman he had to cancel his appearance because he has to fly immediately to Washington, but instead spends the afternoon with an interview. Letterman was obviously ticked off, the video is pretty funny.

They are both headed to Washington now because President Bush asked that they come.

I think your opinion might be based on bad intel.

-spence

So its Obama putting campaign first, because above you said it was McCain.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Bronko

So its Obama putting campaign first, because above you said it was McCain.

That makes no sense.

-spence

[spence]

Ok, an official McCain spokeperson is on TV right now claiming the just reach bi-partisan agreement on the framework for the bail out bill was a result of McCain's suspending of his campaign.

He didn't seem to care when told that even Republicans had commented the discussion was already bi-partisan and going well before McCain's action.

This doesn't just smell like a stunt, it's screaming of one.

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

That makes no sense.

-spence

read your posts, it makes perfect sense

[Bronko]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

read your posts, it makes perfect sense

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

read your posts, it makes perfect sense

Actually no, it doesn't...

It appears that Obama was looking for a unified voice, rather, McCain set off on his own.

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

Actually it was Obama who called McCain to issue a joint statement on the issue, which it appears that they agreed to do, then an hour later McCain makes the announcement that he was going to suspend his campaign.

Then he tells David Leterman he had to cancel his appearance because he has to fly immediately to Washington, but instead spends the afternoon with an interview. Letterman was obviously ticked off, the video is pretty funny.

They are both headed to Washington now because President Bush asked that they come.

I think your opinion might be based on bad intel.

-spence

why is it you take the Obama story as truth and not McCains? As JR stated, his statment was a confusing bumble of words, I have no reason to believe one over the other. Seriously though, Obama needs to learn to speak off the cuff. This resposne and the report last week of the teleprompter at a state fair is embarrasing.
His mis-speaking would make great comedy along the lines of Bush and Ford, but we all know we cant make fun of him.

[RIJIMMY]

Barak Obama Bush's Third Term

[RIJIMMY]

this is fantastic !
Letterman, WEll he makes a good point