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09-10-2008, 11:57 AM
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spence,
I agree with you and think it's pathetic. The unfortunate thing is that these ads aren't targeted to intelligent people.
These ads are for two groups of people: the Kool-Aid Drinkers and the Ignorant.
These ads are for the same people that display their blatant ignorance by still calling him Barack Hussein Obama.
These are terms that show up in the top Google search terms that contain Obama:
obama antichrist
obama birth certificate
obama muslim
People making searches like these are the ones targeted by his ads.
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09-10-2008, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
spence,
I agree with you and think it's pathetic. The unfortunate thing is that these ads aren't targeted to intelligent people.
These ads are for two groups of people: the Kool-Aid Drinkers and the Ignorant.
These ads are for the same people that display their blatant ignorance by still calling him Barack Hussein Obama.
These are terms that show up in the top Google search terms that contain Obama:
obama antichrist
obama birth certificate
obama muslim
People making searches like these are the ones targeted by his ads.
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JD, you'r way off base here. The people who are doing those searches don't need to be swayed by any media. They've already made up their mind about Obama. These ads are targeting people who don't pay attention to politics and who may have no idea who they are going to vote for.
As for calling him Barak Hussein Obama, what's wrong with that? It's his name isn't it? Why was it ok to call former Presidents by names like John Fitzgerald Kennedy or Franklin Delanor Roosevelt? What about actors? Should we call Malcolm Jamal Warner just Malcolm Warner? Just kidding about the last part.
Newsflash - negative ads have been around as long as there have been political ads. And it's not just the Republicans, although some here would have you believe that.
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09-10-2008, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fishbones
As for calling him Barak Hussein Obama, what's wrong with that? It's his name isn't it? Why was it ok to call former Presidents by names like John Fitzgerald Kennedy or Franklin Delanor Roosevelt? What about actors? Should we call Malcolm Jamal Warner just Malcolm Warner? Just kidding about the last part.
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It's wrong when intended to draw attention to the fact that it's an Islamic name. Like when that dip%$%$%$%$ moring radio host Quinn says Barak HUUUSSSEEIINNN Obama, then mentions about how al Qaeda is out to kill us.
It's fearmongering and bigotry. I wonder how many even know what McCain's middle name is?
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Newsflash - negative ads have been around as long as there have been political ads. And it's not just the Republicans, although some here would have you believe that.
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I'm not here to say that the Dems don't distort or go negative, but the GOP has taken it to an artform. It's like a relentless stream of complete BS, then blame the media for reporting it.
-spence
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09-10-2008, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fishbones
JD, you'r way off base here...
These ads are targeting people who don't pay attention to politics and who may have no idea who they are going to vote for.
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Thus my claim that the ads are also for the ignorant. In my opinion, people that are completely swayed by smear ads, as opposed to doing some research on the subject before forming an opinion, shouldn't vote. There are too many options for gathering information about the candidates, even for the poor.
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09-10-2008, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Thus my claim that the ads are also for the ignorant. In my opinion, people that are completely swayed by smear ads, as opposed to doing some research on the subject before forming an opinion, shouldn't vote. There are too many options for gathering information about the candidates, even for the poor.
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You're right on there, JD. Many people can't tell you where candidates stand on the issues that are important to them. So, ignorance takes over and they vote for the one whose ads influenced them or they vote for who their favorite radio or tv personality tells them to vote for.
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09-10-2008, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
These ads are for the same people that display their blatant ignorance by still calling him Barack Hussein Obama.
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Isn't that his full name?
Dwight David Eisenhower, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Lyndon Baines Johnson, Richard Milhous Nixon, Gerald Rudolph Ford, James Earl Carter, Ronald Wilson Reagan, George Herbert Walker Bush, William Jefferson Clinton, and George Walker Bush. That's all from memory witout a Google search. Historically, Presidents are identified by their full name--the recent exception being Harry S Truman who didn't have a middle name--the S stood for nothing.
If he wins, likely the oath of office will start out "I, Barack Hussein Obaba, do solemnly swear.....". It's a tradition that the full name is used.
Hillary Rodham Clinton is fine and dandy, and Barack Hussein Obama isn't? Why not?
The guy says he's a Christian. I'll take him at his word, although why it should matter is a mystery. I thought we put the religion of our candidates behind us by 2008 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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09-10-2008, 06:55 PM
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You're absolutely right. In my haste to get the post up before having to do something at work, I didn't elaborate clearly.
Fortunately, spence knew what I meant and filled in the holes I clumsily left out. Which I appreciate.
I completely agree Mike. In 2008, religion shouldn't even be a second thought. Personally, I don't care the religion of a person as long as they do the job appropriately and with my best interests in mind. It has been a long time since that's happened though.
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Isn't that his full name?
Dwight David Eisenhower, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Lyndon Baines Johnson, Richard Milhous Nixon, Gerald Rudolph Ford, James Earl Carter, Ronald Wilson Reagan, George Herbert Walker Bush, William Jefferson Clinton, and George Walker Bush. That's all from memory witout a Google search. Historically, Presidents are identified by their full name--the recent exception being Harry S Truman who didn't have a middle name--the S stood for nothing.
If he wins, likely the oath of office will start out "I, Barack Hussein Obaba, do solemnly swear.....". It's a tradition that the full name is used.
Hillary Rodham Clinton is fine and dandy, and Barack Hussein Obama isn't? Why not?
The guy says he's a Christian. I'll take him at his word, although why it should matter is a mystery. I thought we put the religion of our candidates behind us by 2008 
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