Palin's speach

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by likwid

Mixed? MIXED?!
Dude, she might as well come out and say "eff fisherman and eff polar bears."

What do we need polar bears for, anyways?

I wasn't too enthralled with the choice of Palin going into the RNC, but she did a great job with her speech. But, she's a politician. And like McCain, Obama and Biden, she's trying to appeal to a broad base with her speeches.

Most of you guys in here are intelligent enough to know what these candidates stand for and which ways they lean on issues, but most of the general public is competely ignorant on the issues.

Some people will vote for Obama because he's a minority candidate or because he's a good looking, polished speaker.

Others will vote for McCain because he's a war hero who served his country and was a P.O.W.

Palin is going to garner votes for McCain because she is a woman and they won't have a clue as to where she stands on important issues.

It's too bad that more voters don't inform themselves and get to know a little about the candidates that are running.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by fishbones

What do we need polar bears for, anyways?

Yeah really, and screw the livelyhood of over 12,000 and $300mil a year.

[Nebe]

Jim my biggest issue right now is this- the GOP has this trait that kind of bugs me.. they reach out at election time to the 'small town' voter.. they will say 'were lookin out for you.. the little guy'. 'We're going to do what ever we can to help YOU succeed by ecouraging this, that, and whatever'.. When in fract the GOP at least in the past 8 years has proven that it really favors big business. Lets say the 'small town' that they say they care so much about has an oil refinery or some sort of industry that the town depends on.. when the crap hits the fan, who do you think the GOP is looking out for?? I dont judge the economy's well being by looking at the DOW.. I look at the strength of the middle class.. Who do you think is going to do their best with the middle class as their focus? Palin is a smoke screen.. However I will admit I am biased because I have seen Bush lie, cheat, and basicly screw the american people in the name of corperate profits.. McCain is not bush and is more moderate.. so I will say that I dont think that things could possibly be worse if he is elected..

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by Nebe

the GOP has this trait that kind of bugs me.. they reach out at election time to the 'small town' voter.. they will say 'were lookin out for you.. the little guy'. 'We're going to do what ever we can to help YOU succeed by ecouraging this, that, and whatever'..
Lets say the 'small town' that they say they care so much about has an oil refinery or some sort of industry that the town depends on.. when the crap hits the fan, who do you think the GOP is looking out for?? ..

Nebe, it's not only The GOP that reaches out at election time - it's all parties. Simple explanation is that everyone is trying to get votes so they can get elected and then forget about everything the promised or said they were going to do.

Both major parties are much more similar than you think. It's like professional wrestling where there are "bad guys" and "good guys". Politicians do what they can so that they can get elected. They fight with and complain about the other guy, then behind the scenes they play golf or go sailing. As someone who has worked in politics at the state level, I've seen this happen often.

I do believe that there are a lot of politicians who get into it for the right reasons, and I have met and worked with some of them. But, there are a lot of politicians (both parties) who get into it because they don't have the desire or the capabilities to hold down a "real" job.

In about 10 months, lets look at the promises made during the campaign by whoever gets elected and see what has actually come to fruition. It won't make a difference if it's Obama or McCain.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Jim my biggest issue right now is this- the GOP has this trait that kind of bugs me.. they reach out at election time to the 'small town' voter.. they will say 'were lookin out for you.. the little guy'. 'We're going to do what ever we can to help YOU succeed by ecouraging this, that, and whatever'.. When in fract the GOP at least in the past 8 years has proven that it really favors big business. Lets say the 'small town' that they say they care so much about has an oil refinery or some sort of industry that the town depends on.. when the crap hits the fan, who do you think the GOP is looking out for?? I dont judge the economy's well being by looking at the DOW.. I look at the strength of the middle class.. Who do you think is going to do their best with the middle class as their focus? Palin is a smoke screen.. However I will admit I am biased because I have seen Bush lie, cheat, and basicly screw the american people in the name of corperate profits.. McCain is not bush and is more moderate.. so I will say that I dont think that things could possibly be worse if he is elected..

However, do you really think being a moderate liar, cheater and screwer is really going to help us non-big business folks?

[likwid]

Originally Posted by striperman36

However, do you really think being a moderate liar, cheater and screwer is really going to help us non-big business folks?

The way most are looking at it is it can't be any worse?

[Flaptail]

I listened to her speech but couldn't keep from wondering what it would be like to get head from a vice-presidential candidate........?

Is that fall under the impure thoughts category?

Hmmm, a vp hummer, what would that be like?

Does that make me a bad person?

Other than that all I got from it was "Jesus is lord, from my cold dead fingers, I'm a mom, I was mayor of a hick town and governor of a state (that doesn't have as many year round residents as New York City )and the feeling that her favorite book is the latest Smith & Wesson catalog.

She is cute but she doesn't seem all that genuine to me, she was a reporter ( sports I am told) but I never trusted reporters news, sports or otherwise.

Leave it to those wacky republicans to mix things up in a campaign. The most fun will be Biden vs. Palin debates ( is there more than one televised vp candidate debate?)

I am so glad I am an un-enrolled voter this year.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Flaptail

I listened to her speech but couldn't keep from wondering what it would be like to get head from a vice-presidential candidate........?

Is that fall under the impure thoughts category?

Hmmm, a vp hummer, what would that be like?

Nebe and Likwid were wondering the same thing when they watched Biden's address.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Flaptail

I listened to her speech but couldn't keep from wondering what it would be like to get head from a vice-presidential candidate........?

Is that fall under the impure thoughts category?

Hmmm, a vp hummer, what would that be like?

Does that make me a bad person?

Isn't Nebe your vice President?



Come on Steve, you know the country will be a lot better off with an experienced President rather than one with charisma and no real way to accomplish all of his promises, face it, he just wants to be President just because it is his dream.

[TheSpecialist]

While the republicans may favor big business, it was the dems (Clintons in particular) who forced NAFTA down our throat, that hasn't done a whole lot of good for the little guy and helped big business get manufacturing cheaper in other countries...


I like her, and her guns. She is my kind of girl.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by striperman36

However, do you really think being a moderate liar, cheater and screwer is really going to help us non-big business folks?

depends on who he decides whome to lie cheat and screw