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08-29-2008, 02:03 PM
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She's brilliant with working numbers which gets my vote. She may make a few enemies among her own party who have depended on PORK BELLY spending to get re-elected all these years to remain in their seats.
She will be McCain's "pit bull" and the republicans will balance the budget within his 8 years as President.
The DEMS are worried and have already started the search for any negatives but I think she is "Squeeky Clean". (other than a few left over scales from the fish she and her husband caught as commercial fishers). She'll win over the Christian coallition that thought Joe Biden ( an alledged catholic) until he stated that he would not oppose ROE VS WADE.
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08-29-2008, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LT. DAN 2
She will be McCain's "pit bull" and the republicans will balance the budget within his 8 years as President.
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McCain will be a single term president, he's too old.
And while I'm sure she will be put on the attack, she'd going to have to find some credibility somewhere to make any of it stick.
I completely disagree with Mike P. above on the debates. Biden is a good speaker with a library of anecdotes and analysis he can bring to bear.
She has a good life story for sure, but at the end of the day she'll just be spinning rehearsed talking points.
-spence
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08-29-2008, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
McCain will be a single term president, he's too old.
And while I'm sure she will be put on the attack, she'd going to have to find some credibility somewhere to make any of it stick.
I completely disagree with Mike P. above on the debates. Biden is a good speaker with a library of anecdotes and analysis he can bring to bear.
She has a good life story for sure, but at the end of the day she'll just be spinning rehearsed talking points.
-spence
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Biden is a rambling speaker who can't stay on point, assuming he ever gets to the point. He's infamous for it.
Biden can't even hold an audience in the Iowa Democratic caucuses. 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-29-2008, 03:33 PM
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I bet they were on the fence with a couple of people then decided they needed more star-power.
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08-29-2008, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike P
Biden is a rambling speaker who can't stay on point, assuming he ever gets to the point. He's infamous for it.
Biden can't even hold an audience in the Iowa Democratic caucuses. 
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Well, I said good and not great
This isn't a Senate hearing where the point is to make your statement rather than ask questions. The debates don't give you much opportunity to be long winded.
-spence
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08-29-2008, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Well, I said good and not great
This isn't a Senate hearing where the point is to make your statement rather than ask questions. The debates don't give you much opportunity to be long winded.
-spence
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I plagiarized this verbatim from a post on another website, which pretty much sums it up:
Against Ramblin' Joe? You may be surprised.
1.Biden is terrible off the prompter - a legend on Capitol Hill.
2. He can't hit her too hard because she's a chick. Hillary used this to her advantage countless times in debates.
3. Expectations will be lower for her so all she has to do is stay even.
4. We don't know yet how good she is in a debate. She may be a killer.
5. VP debates don't win elections. Dan Quayle was OWNED by Lloyd Bentsen but Dukakis still had to drive his tank back to Taxachusetts afer the election, didn't he?
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-29-2008, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike P
I plagiarized this verbatim from a post on another website, which pretty much sums it up:
Against Ramblin' Joe? You may be surprised.
1.Biden is terrible off the prompter - a legend on Capitol Hill.
2. He can't hit her too hard because she's a chick. Hillary used this to her advantage countless times in debates.
3. Expectations will be lower for her so all she has to do is stay even.
4. We don't know yet how good she is in a debate. She may be a killer.
5. VP debates don't win elections. Dan Quayle was OWNED by Lloyd Bentsen but Dukakis still had to drive his tank back to Taxachusetts afer the election, didn't he?
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I think #'s 4 and 5 will be the most important. My expectation is that she's bright and quick and this will help her hold her own. Expectations for Bush were low and he was able to stumble through, even though Kerry killed him in all three.
But I really can't see her chewing Biden up, and I think he's a better speaker than you're giving him credit for.
Time will tell...
-spence
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08-31-2008, 08:13 AM
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The DEMS are worried and have already started the search for any negatives but I think she is "Squeeky Clean".
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"Squeeky Clean" except for the baggage from trying to have her brother-in-law fired as a State Trooper because her sister wanted a divorce.
That sounds like the action of a rational, responsible political candidate. It's a good thing she vowed to improve political ethics in Alaska.
Also, the "executive experience" argument is rather weak. It would be one thing if she had 10 years as a Governor, pulled the state out of a financial crisis and improved the state to Top 10 in the country for education. She was elected in 2006. We might as well make Deval Patrick President. He has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined.
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08-31-2008, 09:17 AM
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I think the Dems were a little antsy and wanted something quick to jump on. If you read other articles on the subject she asks that one check the facts of the case and she stands "Accountable" for her part in the matter.
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09-01-2008, 08:45 AM
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Executive experience argument
It's a weak argument. If you go with that argument then she is more qualified to be President than John McCain.
It is a gamble by McCain and a clever one at that . Takes the attention away from Obama, now the election is about Palin. Interesting stuff , you can't make it up , this election is going to be interesting. FishHawk
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09-10-2008, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
We might as well make Deval Patrick President. He has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined.
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cool........
then we could have a casino in every town
same as dunkin donuts.... 
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