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Old 08-21-2008, 08:34 AM   #1
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its the DNC, and their candidate is?

The DNC is up with a new Web video -- “Exxon John” -- which mimics that widely panned “Big John” ad by Texas Sen. John Cornyn. The DNC says it will play this video at its Exxon-McCain National Day of Action events across the country this week.

But as the Center for Responsive Politics pointed out last week, while McCain has received nearly three times the amount of money from the oil and gas industry that Obama has, Obama actually has received more contributions from Exxon than his GOP rival has. *** UPDATE *** The DNC pushes back here that when you add DNC, RNC, and PAC contributions, the Republicans and McCain have received more money from Exxon than the Democrats and Obama.

But lets keep this on topic, can you read the CNN posting and tell me its not 100% biased to Obama???? Look at the tone. Obama has gone "ot of his way" to run positive campaign, Rick Warrens church benefited McCain. How McCain was in the "catbird" seat while Obama was on vacation. So f'in ridiculous, please tell me you can't deny that?

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Old 08-21-2008, 08:43 AM   #2
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to be honest I have stopped paying attention long ago. Its pretty obvious to me that McCain is going to be looking out for big money and the top 1%... Obama is looking to help out the middle class.. remember the middle class?? They used to exist about 6 years ago.. they could afford a mortgage, 2 cars, take a nice vacation or 2 every year and they could even put away some money for thier kids college...

You think McCain is worrying about that? I doubt it.
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Old 08-21-2008, 08:58 AM   #3
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to be honest I have stopped paying attention long ago. Its pretty obvious to me that McCain is going to be looking out for big money and the top 1%... Obama is looking to help out the middle class.. remember the middle class?? They used to exist about 6 years ago.. they could afford a mortgage, 2 cars, take a nice vacation or 2 every year and they could even put away some money for thier kids college...

You think McCain is worrying about that? I doubt it.
I think thats the actual issue Nebe. I dont want any president worrying about that. Its not their role. If the middle class wants those things, one answer,,,,work harder! Take classes, read books, get that MBA, etc. Thats what the country was founded on, hard work. The president is not resposnible to deliver 2 houses and a nice vacation. Thats INDIVIDUAL responsibility. Obama plans to help the middle class by taking away $ from the people that work hard and earn it. There are NO free rides anymore.
Knowing your business I am so surprised you dont get this. your base, in my guess, is generally wealthy people, buying luxury goods. No one NEEDS custom blown glass.

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Old 08-21-2008, 09:07 AM   #4
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If the middle class wants those things, one answer,,,,work harder! Take classes, read books, get that MBA, etc. Thats what the country was founded on, hard work.
Isn't that what the middle class is....the people who went to college/school and work hard day in and day out to pay the bills and try and afford the mortgage.

Sounds like you have the middle class lumped in with the Working poor.

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Isn't that what the middle class is....the people who went to college/school and work hard day in and day out to pay the bills and try and afford the mortgage.

Sounds like you have the middle class lumped in with the Working poor.

No, I am saying you may have to work harder to live the type of life you want, thats all. There are no guarantees. The Obama camp is all about "entitlement" as Nebe notes. there is nothing in the constitution tha guarnatees you a house, car, job, vacation. Thats your problem. This country needs to provided the OPPORTUNITY for those things.
Bill Gates didnt become a billionaire becasue he was white, middle class, privledged, etc. he did it by working hard, taking chances, creativity,,,,every singel american has that same opportunity

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Im not pointing fingers at any parties on this train of thought, but this country has systematically allowed corporations to pull the carpet out from under this nations working class by shipping so many jobs over seas... jim you say work harder... ok, so how is a guy supposed to work harder when there are fewer and fewer jobs available?? I am sure he can work really hard in a service based job like McDonalds..right? Maybe a grocery store? Ross Perot was right about the giant s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g sound..

There was a point when this country was the most powerful nation on earth.. we had the best industry, the best base of specialized workers working in the industry and the dollar was strong..... not no more..
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Bill Gates didnt become a billionaire becasue he was white, middle class, privledged, etc. he did it by working hard, taking chances, creativity,,,,
Actually Bill Gates became a millionare by ripping off some poor slob that invented DOS by buying it off of him for $5000.....then he was off to the races

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