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buckman · 06-04-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

wrong.

Before you make a statement like that, you need to analyze why they are against us, or why it is that they threw the 1st stone at us.

Our foreign policy has been against them for decades. The problem is oil and Israel. If our country ignored those 2 issues and made decisions in regards to foreign policy without taking them into consideration, you would see a happier Muslim population in the middle east and a population that would have no reason to want to attack Americans. But because we want their oil and because we worked with england to create the nation of Israel in the 40's and displace millions of Palestinians and force them to live in refuge camps for decades, I can see why we are hated. You certainly can not think that we as a nation have done nothing to pour fuel on the Muslim fire for years and years..
To think that the Muslim population would sit back and let us screw them over time after time is like the thought that the American Indians who once roamed the great planes of our country would sit back and let the white man steal their lands without raising a fist in defense. Were they against us? or were we against them?

open your eyes

Holt sh@@t, do you ever listen to your self. Maybe we should give America back to the Indians. Last I checked your car and boat run on fossil fuels too. Are you saying that if we just leave them alone they will be peaceful. Hell they have been killing each other off for thousands of years. They no nothing of peace and to blame it on Israel is pathetic. How about the Muslums taking over Europe or is that Ok. As long as no one who is not a Muslim is in their country.

Nebe · 06-04-2008, 02:13 PM

common sense man... common sense. If you were my neighbor and I built a guest house on your property against your will, what would you do? Give me a kiss and polish my shoes? Sounds ridiculous doesnt it? The thing is that i would never do that in the first place.

So lets say I did build a guest house on your property and your screaming and yelling about it.. no one listens to you and those who do, say that my grandparents once owned your land so your out of luck.. you have no options so you use the only option you have left to get me off of your land... violence. Then people start paying attention to you and you think your going to get your way, but the people paying attention have labeled you as a terrorist. Now you have no way out.. you might as well just kill yourself, or better yet, kill me and yourself at the same time.. no one wins.

But.. If i had the decency to treat you right in the first place and respect your rights, we'd be having a cook out right now..

buckman · 06-04-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

common sense man... common sense. If you were my neighbor and I built a guest house on your property against your will, what would you do? Give me a kiss and polish my shoes? Sounds ridiculous doesnt it? The thing is that i would never do that in the first place.

So lets say I did build a guest house on your property and your screaming and yelling about it.. no one listens to you and those who do, say that my grandparents once owned your land so your out of luck.. you have no options so you use the only option you have left to get me off of your land... violence. Then people start paying attention to you and you think your going to get your way, but the people paying attention have labeled you as a terrorist. Now you have no way out.. you might as well just kill yourself, or better yet, kill me and yourself at the same time.. no one wins.

But.. If i had the decency to treat you right in the first place and respect your rights, we'd be having a cook out right now..

I could sell you the land

Not a great analogy but I get your point. It's just that this is how the world works. things change, wars happen, land changes hands, and it is not going to be any different in our life time. No matter how many Prayers for Peace rallies you attend.

RIJIMMY · 06-04-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

common sense man... common sense. If you were my neighbor and I built a guest house on your property against your will, what would you do? Give me a kiss and polish my shoes? Sounds ridiculous doesnt it? The thing is that i would never do that in the first place.

So lets say I did build a guest house on your property and your screaming and yelling about it.. no one listens to you and those who do, say that my grandparents once owned your land so your out of luck.. you have no options so you use the only option you have left to get me off of your land... violence. Then people start paying attention to you and you think your going to get your way, but the people paying attention have labeled you as a terrorist. Now you have no way out.. you might as well just kill yourself, or better yet, kill me and yourself at the same time.. no one wins.

But.. If i had the decency to treat you right in the first place and respect your rights, we'd be having a cook out right now..

Hmmm. Narragansett. That name sounds native american......plan on giving up your home?

Nebe · 06-04-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Hmmm. Narragansett. That name sounds native american......plan on giving up your home?

No I dont. and The palestinians didnt either. If I did have to give up my home and live in a refuge camp, Id be first in line to launch a mortar shell back into my old neighborhood. They have every right to be pissed off..

McCain- kill em all. (If you get my drift)

Obama- work with them and make their lives better so they wont need to feel so desperate.

buckman · 06-04-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

No I dont. and The palestinians didnt either. If I did have to give up my home and live in a refuge camp, Id be first in line to launch a mortar shell back into my old neighborhood. They have every right to be pissed off..

McCain- kill em all. (If you get my drift)

Obama- work with them and make their lives better so they wont need to feel so desperate.

Can all the Jews live in your house or do we have to kill them?

McCain - no war munger he's a war hero

Obama- How much $$ do we give them to leaveus alone. Perhaps the whole defense budget

EarnedStripes44 · 06-04-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman

Can all the Jews live in your house or do we have to kill them?

McCain - no war munger he's a war hero

Obama- How much $$ do we give them to leaveus alone. Perhaps the whole defense budget

Dont we pay iraqi's not to shoot at us

buckman · 06-04-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44

Dont we pay iraqi's not to shoot at us

I think we give them $$ as bounty $$. I don't think we are offering the terrorist money to not kill us. Not yet anyways

EarnedStripes44 · 06-04-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Hmmm. Narragansett. That name sounds native american......plan on giving up your home?

actually, I believe Narragansett is the english corruption of a word from a language that probably does not exist anymore. Guess I cant give up my home if no one is around.

likwid · 06-04-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman

They no nothing of peace and to blame it on Israel is pathetic. How about the Muslums taking over Europe or is that Ok. As long as no one who is not a Muslim is in their country.

Please explain why Indonesia while it has the largest muslim population in the world seems to be fine with hindus, christians, and other religions (including jews) living there?

For example you'll see muslims, jews, christians, hindus all in Kuala Lumpur.
You don't see the muslims freaking out and beheading anyone?
Why is that?

And just to be clear, if there's one group that hates muslims more than the right wing, its hindus.

buckman · 06-04-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by likwid

Please explain why Indonesia while it has the largest muslim population in the world seems to be fine with hindus, christians, and other religions (including jews) living there?

For example you'll see muslims, jews, christians, hindus all in Kuala Lumpur.
You don't see the muslims freaking out and beheading anyone?
Why is that?

I don't believe for a minute that all Muslums are bad. But the terrorist that are beheading, blowing up schools and shrines, targeting children and killing all over the world are all Muslum. And Indonesia has had a few attacks of their own. It's no Utopia over there. The world is full of people living on land that was once owned by others. We are not British over here.

Nebe · 06-04-2008, 02:31 PM

once we kill them all, everything will be fine.

bombs away

likwid · 06-04-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman

I don't believe for a minute that all Muslums are bad. But the terrorist that are beheading, blowing up schools and shrines, targeting children and killing all over the world are all Muslum. And Indonesia has had a few attacks of their own. It's no Utopia over there. The world is full of people living on land that was once owned by others. We are not British over here.

Where are they targeting children again?

What about the IRA? They're not muslims.
What about the wackos we've had here in the US? Not muslims.
Random bombings in the former soviet union? Yet again. Still not muslims.
Tamil Tigers? Not muslims.
Most of the conflicts in Africa? Not muslims.

And apparently you WANT us to be the British with kingdom building in the middle east and "killing all them muslims".

buckman · 06-04-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by likwid

Where are they targeting children again?

What about the IRA? They're not muslims.
What about the wackos we've had here in the US? Not muslims.
Random bombings in the former soviet union? Yet again. Still not muslims.
Tamil Tigers? Not muslims.
Most of the conflicts in Africa? Not muslims.

And apparently you WANT us to be the British with kingdom building in the middle east and "killing all them muslims".

You should get a job writing talking points for them. Your very defensive when someone says anything bad about a terrorist. I'm sure you and your children will be safe if they board your plane. You know they looked those little kids in the face and crashed that plane into the towers.

I don't condone the IRA or any of those now defunct groups. Don't forget the Black Panthers.

likwid · 06-04-2008, 02:43 PM

Honestly I'm not even going to acknowledge what you said before what I quoted below because you're now on the defensive and can't come up with a mature response. Slinging it doesn't win you any points with anyone. And in reality, I'm defending muslims, not terrorists, but obviously I *am* supporting terrorists because all muslims are terrorists right?

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I don't condone the IRA or any of those now defunct groups. Don't forget the Black Panthers.

Howabout the KKK?

buckman · 06-04-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by likwid

Honestly I'm not even going to acknowledge what you said before what I quoted below because you're now on the defensive and can't come up with a mature response. Slinging it doesn't win you any points with anyone. And in reality, I'm defending muslims, not terrorists, but obviously I *am* supporting terrorists because all muslims are terrorists right?

Howabout the KKK?

Hate them, I mean I dislike them very much. ( just in case any of them still exist and have my address )