Embarassing

[EarnedStripes44]

Originally Posted by scottw

ENLIGHTENED? haaaaaaaaa I love it when someone refers to themselves as enlightened ........ewwww.. you are sooo special and smart too, you must look in the mirror and just gaze at yourself admiringly every morning...tell me, when you become ENLIGHTENED do they take away your sense of humor, because I've noticed that the two rarely co-exist...


ENLIGHTENED is sufficient to tell me all I need to know, how do you get ENLIGHTENED? Do you have to drink something for that, Kool Aid maybe, probably RED KOOL AID?...I guess if you expect the government to provide everything for you, then you should also expect to be failed, it's a choice you know or maybe you don't... I think I erred when I mentioned the interview with Amadenijad, I think that was actually Dianne Sawyer licking his boots, sorry Leslie if you are reading this, and then Dan Rather swapping spit with Saddam Hussein, that was priceless...COURAGE...my children will be fine, what you propose is more of exactly what has caused all of the ills that you speak of, but the left never examines the results of their crappy socialist programs, just claim that they are simply underfunded and need to get bigger...the only things that get bigger are the beaurocracies and the suffering for those that "depend" on them...but without a mass dependency on government programs there wouldn't be much of a reason to vote for the dems...so sign em' up!!!

to become enlightened, you just have to read. Both sides of the argument too. Objectivity is paramount.

As far bureaucracy and its dependents, tell that to Bear Stearns. The Federal Reserve Bank provided a 28 billion something life vest. Sounds like dependents suffering to me. What did you get, a 500 dollar rebate check. I bet it cost 50 dollars to fill your car wit gas. That'll get you through 10 weeks.

We have mixed economy for a reason Scott. Without regulation, capitalism will degenerate into its cancerous stage. Look at the mortgage industry and energy, heavily deregulated under Pube administrations, the resul; price fixing and monopolies and the like and subsequent market collapse. Your being bamboozled. If I drink red kool aid, your drinking something thick and brown and its is not Mocha.

[scottw]

must be great to be enlightened and know it all, the Press Club claims that it was not a Clinton operative that set it up, and I'm sure you'll applaud Clinton for any tactics that she uses against the repubs. , so you're saying poor ole' Obama is just an innocent victim of a devious plot?? that's the problem with you enlightened individuals, you way overthink things, did Hillary's operative write the Rev's speech too, I think they were exactly the same things he's been saying all along, just looped over and over like he says, Obama has been defending him for weeks and suddenly he's gone too far saying exactly what he's always said???...pretty funny, oh, well...high 5's all around at Clinton headquarters, Bill's lighting up a big fat Monicanudo cigar right about now with visions of naked interns dancing in his head...

[scottw]

[QUOTE=EarnedStripes44;586033]to become enlightened, you just have to read. Both sides of the argument too. Objectivity is paramount.

I just read that again, that is great because I thought maybe there was some ceremony or something, virgin sacrafice, out of body experience, trip to the desert...it's that simple huh? I'm in, guess I'll have to learn to read though

wait a minute.....you aren't suggesting that you are in any way objective, are you 44? Cause, you've written a whole lot and I don't see you grasping both sides of anything

[spence]

Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44

We have mixed economy for a reason Scott. Without regulation, capitalism will degenerate into its cancerous stage. Look at the mortgage industry and energy, heavily deregulated under Pube administrations, the resul; price fixing and monopolies and the like and subsequent market collapse. Your being bamboozled. If I drink red kool aid, your drinking something thick and brown and its is not Mocha.

Sorry, I'm on the road all week and just can't afford the time to keep stringing Scott along

But this seems to be a fundamendal issue here. Some (and not a Liberal some mind you) are more willing than others to realize the world can't be seen in black and white terms.

Our economy is not a "free market" but rather a "regulated market". Wealth redistribution isn't a Liberal evil but rather a necessity that's supported the middle class for over half a century via a progressive tax system and formed the structure for a consumer driven society.

It's like the pundits have whipped people into a frenzy where by anything not focused on some Conservative or Liberal "brand ideal" can't be a good thing because it's not on the critical path to nirvanna, all the time knowing themselves that their mantras are the result of ego and advertisement revenues rather than pragmatic and learned thought. While there may be wisdom in their words, it's not a playbook for life and certianly not something you could base a successful society around alone.

Any good engineer knows you make something better by taking it to the extreme to see where it breaks, and as such there are really no conservative or liberal ideas that would work in their pure forms.

Yet our leadership, to appease a base, pretends to behave as thought this is true to serve not you or me but ultimately the corporate machine.

Enlightenment is a relative term and in this information age it can be difficult to know how good your data is, but I'd still rather take some enlightenment over none.

The simple fact is, making the effort to understand or even appreciate a viewpoint that's not your own is a very liberal thing, and a very good thing. In some cases it might help you know your enemy, and in others it may give you better appreciation for another perspective on life.

God forbid it indicates your %$%$%$%$ does indeed stink. If so perhaps you should listen to your body and change your diet.

-spence

[Bill L]

The thing about Wright is that when he states and amplifies such ridiculous propositions as the U.S. government somehow being involved in AIDS, when he suggests Minister Farrakhan somehow represents one of the greatest voices of the 20th and 21st centuries, when he equates the United State's wartime efforts with terrorism, there are no excuses. I dont need to hear any more or research his sermons to decide I dont like the guy.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Sorry, I'm on the road all week and just can't afford the time to keep stringing Scott along

But this seems to be a fundamendal issue here. Some (and not a Liberal some mind you) are more willing than others to realize the world can't be seen in black and white terms.

Our economy is not a "free market" but rather a "regulated market". Wealth redistribution isn't a Liberal evil but rather a necessity that's supported the middle class for over half a century via a progressive tax system and formed the structure for a consumer driven society.

It's like the pundits have whipped people into a frenzy where by anything not focused on some Conservative or Liberal "brand ideal" can't be a good thing because it's not on the critical path to nirvanna, all the time knowing themselves that their mantras are the result of ego and advertisement revenues rather than pragmatic and learned thought. While there may be wisdom in their words, it's not a playbook for life and certianly not something you could base a successful society around alone.

Any good engineer knows you make something better by taking it to the extreme to see where it breaks, and as such there are really no conservative or liberal ideas that would work in their pure forms.

Yet our leadership, to appease a base, pretends to behave as thought this is true to serve not you or me but ultimately the corporate machine.

Enlightenment is a relative term and in this information age it can be difficult to know how good your data is, but I'd still rather take some enlightenment over none.

The simple fact is, making the effort to understand or even appreciate a viewpoint that's not your own is a very liberal thing, and a very good thing. In some cases it might help you know your enemy, and in others it may give you better appreciation for another perspective on life.

God forbid it indicates your %$%$%$%$ does indeed stink. If so perhaps you should listen to your body and change your diet.

-spence

when all else fails...dazzle them with arrogant condecension

enlightenment= narciscistic delusion

black/white right/wrong truth/lies
I perfer absolutes,

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

I perfer absolutes,

That's pretty clear. So does President Bush, and look were it's taking this country of ours.

And I think you just reinforced my point.

-spence

[Bronko]

Scott W, I like the cut of your jib!

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

That's pretty clear. So does President Bush, and look were it's taking this country of ours.

And I think you just reinforced my point.

-spence

Thank you.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Thank you.

For what you threat squatter? Add some substance will ya.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

For what you threat squatter? Add some substance will ya.

-spence

Threat squatter? I like that. So where are you now, Reverend defense mode or in agreement with BHO on the Rev? Keep in mind you can't be both.