A Mideast Perspective

[Joe]

Reads like he's advocating a pre-emptive strike on Iran followed by an occupation and the establishment of a western-style democracy. He's got a dash of "final solution to the Muslim problem" in there too. I might be going out on a limb here, but I don't think he's going to have much of a post-military career as a political strategist.

[Raven]

but Israel would probably have to do that before we did...


seeing as how they have already been threatened to be wiped off the map...

so that leaves us no other option than to put our boots on the ground.

But of course as soon as we do anything pre-emptive to prevent a nuclear holocaust
the strait of hamuz will be littered with blown up and burning oil vessels
until our jets finish the bombing of IRAN.

either way the flow of oil will stop and we will be running off of our reserves.

So the statement ....we need a president who is going to make energy independance
happen within ten years or less is the most
relevant . a very sobering read. Thanks

[justplugit]

While I'm no expert ,by any imagination on the mid east, his perspective sounds well grounded.

I like to get perspectives from people who have been involved on the front lines rather than some politician who is always pandering for votes, takes a trip to the hot zones every 5 years,
holds his finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing or some press that has their own agenda.

Like the Brigadier General said," They are putting their thirst for political power and quest for victory in 2008 above what is best for this county."

I would venture to say that except for a few political slogans the average American has no clue as to what is really going on in the world.
Too busy living on Easy Street.

Common sense tells me this area will always be a hot bed as for centuries people have hated and killed each other.
Don't see any change either as every peace strategy ever thought of and tried has never lasted for long.

If it weren't for our need of their oil to survive we would have no need to be there.

Unfortunately for us, until we come up with our own energy needs, whether it's nuclear power, coal, or drilling for oil in Anwar, we will have no choice but to be there.

Imho, it's a case of pay me now or pay me later, with now being the harder choice but later the easy way, but with a lot more consequence.

[Raven]

Originally Posted by justplugit

need to be there.

Unfortunately for us, until we come up with our own energy needs, whether it's nuclear power, coal, or drilling for oil in Anwar, we will have no choice but to be there.

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we have found an unlimited energy source already .....problem is its on the moon trapped in the soil and its called helium 3 ....

it sounds far fetched i'm sure but an elevator of sorts built out of carbon nano tubes will eventually transport materials into outer space and back again...to earth... that will make oil look like bubble gum in comparison... the technology is still ongoing tho.

[JohnR]

And yet, quality career people - like the as of today resigning CENTCOM Commander Admiral Fallon - are cut out of the picture for apparently (possibly) displeasing Washington & the White House. There goes the "stabilizing" force for the middle east. I sure as hell hope Gates don't promote a YESMAN to command Centcom ala General Tommy Franks

Get ready for $7 gas folks, Georgie is going to Tehran sometime in the next 8 months.

I really hope - no pray - that we get a STRONG leader that fosters our Military, keeps us strong, and yet can build the bridges in the world for peace. Whatever happened to Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick?

[justplugit]

Clammah is a spelling moderator.

If so he may be the man we are looking for, don't know anything about him carrying a big stick,

but he does speak softly, or is it vica- versa.

[Clammer]

OOOOOOOOOPS >>>>>>>>>>Time to quit the slow dead & demoralizing of our soldiers & Blow the f #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g place up >.. that,s the only wakeup call they will understand & even if they don,t >>. fu ck up there military /atomic abilities & let them piss on their dead ;;

In WW ! & 2 & Korea we entered to win >> In V/N a totally new kind of war & IMO we were not ready for it & chose not to use the force to put a end to it >.

This cluster f uck / has been that from the beginning of the 1st movie >>> attack Iraq 1 ;;

followed by A/I 2 ... with a part time army /running around in the hot sand / getting blow up by people we are training >>>>>>>>>>>>>> why do we have big ass ship & war planes & missles >>>...saving them for what >>>>>>>>> blow them the %$%$%$%$ up >>>>>
It stopped Japan ..real f #^&#^&#^&#^&#^& quick // now there beating us in education & buying up half the world >. but they too will be %$%$%$%$e d in the stoppage of fuel ;;

If this country doesn,t stop this soon >soon it will be too late >>>>>>>>> we are a country that will die a quick death if the fuel switch is turned off ;;

Its a shame Bush f ucked this up .. by trying to go at it as less coastly to all lives as possible ;;
now >. no matter what >. R & D,s both want him out //

Like John said >.he,s gonna make a move in the next 8 months >> if he,s right >>> i {PRAY} that he has seen the light 7 goes balls to the walls ;;
After that the only reasonable change we have is if McCain would live long enough to pull a upset ;;

I,m on the down side on life & even with the bumps /its been a good one >>>> but I ain,t blind & I cry for those younger than me >>>>> all people ,not just my kids & grandkids ::;

Seriously CLAMMER