knots

[Pete_G]

Originally Posted by Back Beach

Just use a clinch knot.I know some guys prepare leaders weeks and months in advance, but I would recommend tying them up just before you go out for the night. Sounds like your leaders may have suffered from old age.

Same here. I don't like old knots. Never had one fail where I could trace it specifically due to old age, but it's something I don't bother taking a chance with.

[LeCounts1099]

Well, I never want be be tying Leaders & rigs & such between May & Dec. when the game is on!... So I'm always using 1- 2 yr. old Leader/ snaps/ knots-- again: no knot failures yet in a LONG time! Only down- side is that my friends know my supply habits... & hit me up for Leaders like many do for Marlboros!


I tie 75- 150 leaders of all types (some w/ just plain snap... some swivel & Eel- hook... some w/ teaser & snap combos., etc.) every Winter... Just to ensure I'm not wasting time tying "in- season..."


BD, I've spent my surfcasting career avoiding/ neglecting the braid revolution so far... & I'm not changing now!

[BassDawg]

Originally Posted by LeCounts1099

BD, I've spent my surfcasting career avoiding/ neglecting the braid revolution so far... & I'm not changing now!

COOL, Le Counts!

I missed your point earlier, you don't tie to braid
because you don't WANT to tie to braid, now I get it .

Different strokes for different folks, and I can't say that I'm completely sold, but i do like the distance and the no memory loss. On yer bigger test lines it seems to be easier to spool as well. For me the jury's still out, but I do like it so far........

[jkjnp]

Here is a cool website that shows how to tie all of the knots...

I just picked the dropper loop, but you can choose from all of the knots on the left.

http://www.animatedknots.com/dropperloop/index.php

[WadingWill]

palomar for all my knots.

[Goose]

Originally Posted by Pete_G

Same here. I don't like old knots. Never had one fail where I could trace it specifically due to old age, but it's something I don't bother taking a chance with.

me too, what Pete & BackBeach said

[Back Beach]

I should mention one more thing here too, and that's the condition/age of your leader material. In addition to being an advocate of tying up your leaders prior to the day’s or night’s fishing, I typically purchase a brand new spool of 50# big game prior to each season. Throw last season’s stuff out and go with the fresh stuff. When I used to fish the outer cape, which is obviously all sand, I would tie direct most of the time with 25# big game and would change the line every couple of days. Just like your produce, fresh is better.

[Pete_G]

Originally Posted by Back Beach

I should mention one more thing here too, and that's the condition/age of your leader material. In addition to being an advocate of tying up your leaders prior to the day’s or night’s fishing, I typically purchase a brand new spool of 50# big game prior to each season. Throw last season’s stuff out and go with the fresh stuff. When I used to fish the outer cape, which is obviously all sand, I would tie direct most of the time with 25# big game and would change the line every couple of days. Just like your produce, fresh is better.

To add to this, even fluorocarbon ages. Popular opinion is it doesn't break down or age much.

I used to use Varivas Fluorocarbon, it was awesome stuff. Soft, tough, thin, all the things you'd want in leader material.

But they stopped importing it 3, 4, maybe more years ago and I ran out shortly afterwards.

This past year I found some hiding in one of my storage boxes and was thrilled since I'd long run out. The thrill was gone after the first time I used it, it's break strength was gone. It broke with very little pressure.

[piemma]

Originally Posted by Pete_G

To add to this, even fluorocarbon ages. Popular opinion is it doesn't break down or age much.

I used to use Varivas Fluorocarbon, it was awesome stuff. Soft, tough, thin, all the things you'd want in leader material.

But they stopped importing it 3, 4, maybe more years ago and I ran out shortly afterwards.

This past year I found some hiding in one of my storage boxes and was thrilled since I'd long run out. The thrill was gone after the first time I used it, it's break strength was gone. It broke with very little pressure.

I also have experienced line that has broken down over time. last year i found a spool of 50# Spectron braid. I knew it was 5 years old but it had been in a closed box in my basement. I lost a beautiful fish in the 35# range right at the gunnel when the line just parted.