Curious Question?/Peyton Manning! - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

BigFish · 01-17-2008, 06:53 PM

I agree with most of what you say! I can't even wrap my head around my own question! To put it simply, as you say, with the weapons we have on the Pats right now......plug Manning into the Brady outlet.....what would happen....coaching aside?

I think first of all, of the time Manning might have in the pocket as Brady has had......what a benefit! Then I think of Randy Moss catching Manning, who I think is one of the best "long pass" tossers of all time! The guy can thread a needle from 60 yards away! Marvin Harrison is good but he is no Randy Moss! I think the thought of it is scary!

fishaholic18 · 01-17-2008, 07:04 PM

Two totally different QB's. Brady has everything Peyton has but Brady has greater vision, quicker release, ability to look off defenders better and is much more patient in the pocket. Did you ever see Peyton fight off defenders like Tom does? He's a special player for sure.

BigFish · 01-17-2008, 07:12 PM

I agree with all of those Dave.......thats what makes Brady the best! He is cooooollll under pressure!

Raider Ronnie · 01-17-2008, 07:15 PM

Both are great !
Not worth arguing.
Brady will never play for the Colts and Manning will never play for the Pats.

Raider Ronnie · 01-17-2008, 07:22 PM

I will say,
Tom has had a bit easier rd traveled being able to sit behind Bledsoe and learn for a few years.
Manning had the weight of the team on his back from day 1, starting from his rookie season.

fishaholic18 · 01-17-2008, 07:28 PM

What the hell did Drew have to do with Tom? Drew proved several times that he sucked...

Raider Ronnie · 01-17-2008, 07:35 PM

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What the hell did Drew have to do with Tom? Drew proved several times that he sucked...

Tom had the chance to sit back and learn instead of being thrown into the fire right away!
I'm pretty sure the only guy i've ever seen start as a rookie and play great was Dan Marino!

wrikerjr · 01-17-2008, 07:49 PM

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What the hell did Drew have to do with Tom? Drew proved several times that he sucked...

you think that bledsoe didn't teach brady somethings along the way? Brady is one of the 5 best qb's ever and may be the top one when its over, but to say he didn't learn under bledsoe is a niave statement.

wrikerjr · 01-17-2008, 08:02 PM

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I think this year was the perfect example..Manning w/o his binky/safety blanket in Harrison being out most of the year struggled. Also down the stretch,the Colt's running game wasn't as productive as earlier in the year (take note all the Maroney haters out there who wondered why Maroney wasn't seeing time all year). Another words, when Manning isn't surrounded by a productive running game and all world receiver,he struggled. Brady's won three Super Bowls with the same exact type of team Manning had this season. We saw it in plain view during the Colts/Pats game in November..All the mediots were using the "But the Colts were injured" excuse for their..BS. Unless Manning or Brady are injured and out,neither team can use injuries as an excuse for a loss..And the only thing Brady learned from Bledsoe,is HOW NOT to play QB in the NFL..

I agree with 90% of that, but some of the reasons that the colts lost that game were miscues on the teams part, not necessarily manning. You rarely see the pat's make a miscue at all.

In a really tight bigtime game the colts will usually loose them, while the pat's will usually win them. the difference is BB and his team discipline.

You guys must hate beldsoe, but he was a very good quarterback and brady said that he taught him alot. Bledsoe carried your franchise for a number of years. I also remember Bledsoe playing with a broken finger on his right hand for several games just to get into the playoffs. If you had an offensive line or a running game bledsoe would have been better, that is not his fault. I remember bledsoe on his back a ton during his career especially with the pats. Didn't he also have a huge drive against the steelers when you almight brady hurt his ankle.

You guys really have very selective memories and love to bash ex-players. I would love to read what you say about your current patriots in 5 years or if they left the patriots.

wrikerjr · 01-17-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

I agree with most of what you say! I can't even wrap my head around my own question! To put it simply, as you say, with the weapons we have on the Pats right now......plug Manning into the Brady outlet.....what would happen....coaching aside?

I think first of all, of the time Manning might have in the pocket as Brady has had......what a benefit! Then I think of Randy Moss catching Manning, who I think is one of the best "long pass" tossers of all time! The guy can thread a needle from 60 yards away! Marvin Harrison is good but he is no Randy Moss! I think the thought of it is scary!

Sorry, this thread got a little off the question. for that i apologize. I think that Manning may have had as good a year as Brady, but it is very difficult to say because Brady's numbers are unmatched and just flat out crazy. IMO Manning and Brady differences are so small because they both do everything incredibly well.

BigFish · 01-17-2008, 08:49 PM

I just think Brady is cooler under pressure....and that might be his greatest attribute.....other than the quick read and the way he moves in the pocket! His peripheral vision is amazing as the pocket begins to collapse he just moves forward and finds his receivers! Manning, quite frequently, shows his fear with his "happy feet" as he did in the Giants game the other day! The opposition sees this and they smell blood in the water!