Someone lying thru their teeth....?

[Raider Ronnie]

Roger looked pretty nervous !
Judging by all the eye blinking, I say he's lying !

[Squid kids Dad]

Liar,Liar pants on fire....

[BigFish]

I believe him! And by the way....he can't prove his innocence any more than they can prove his guilt....its one persons word against another persons word......so let it go!

[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by BigFish

I believe him! And by the way....he can't prove his innocence any more than they can prove his guilt....its one persons word against another persons word......so let it go!

Same go for Bonds???

[afterhours]

larry- you really believe him?

[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by afterhours

larry- you really believe him?

Larry probable thinks the Pats will beat Jacksonville by 70 points next sat !

[Squid kids Dad]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Larry probable thinks the Pats will beat Jacksonville by 70 points next sat !

Maybe not by 70..40 Probably...

[BigFish]

Yeah I do! He, as he said won a Cy in 97'....a year before he supposedly took his first shot and also in 04'.....3 years after his last "alleged" shot???? Sounds pretty strange??? Bonds......well.....didn't he "claim" he may have "unknowingly" been injected with steroids???? Also steroids and HGH are 2 different substances! I also do not believe Clemens would be pitching at this late date if he used them as they do wear you down physically! Oh.....and Bonds was a mediocre player until he began using steroids.....check the stats and his build.....Clemens was always Clemens and his build only gained weight...not muscle!

[Raider Ronnie]

[QUOTE=BigFish;552929]Yeah I do! He, as he said won a Cy in 97'....a year before he supposedly took his first shot and also in 04'.....3 years after his last "alleged" shot???? Sounds pretty strange??? Bonds......well.....didn't he "claim" he may have "unknowingly" been injected with steroids???? Also steroids and HGH are 2 different substances! I also do not believe Clemens would be pitching at this late date if he used them as they do wear you down physically! Oh.....and Bonds was a mediocre player until he began using steroids...



Larry,
You should invest in a fresh air respirator for when you paint your plugs !

[BigFish]

Why Ron.....its my opinion and I am entitled to it...not to mention you asked!

Pats by 50!

[Mike P]

Bonds was a mediocre player before 'roids?

Did Roger actually claim he was taking lidocaine shots in the rump for pain in his knees?

[BassDawg]

Originally Posted by BigFish

Yeah I do! He, as he said won a Cy in 97'....a year before he supposedly took his first shot and also in 04'.....3 years after his last "alleged" shot???? Sounds pretty strange???

With regards to '97, that was when he was in his "prime" so the roids would be uneccessary.

With '04 if he's lying about his use before, why would he tell the truth about 2001-2004? Also "the heat" could've been awn by then, as clearly the whole "drugs in pro sports dynamic" was undergoing a major change during those times. Additionally, couldn't Roger have gone to someone else besides McNamee that has yet to be collared by the Feds or Senator Mitchell, thereby removing a piece of the discovery puzzle?

There are still way too many names on the peripheral side of this investigation for me to feel completely informed, and we won't have any info of a definitve nature until all parties are somehow allowed to come forward under some blanket umbrella of immunity that would implicate EVERYONE and FREE us ALL from this horrific stigma that just keeps getting worse and worse.

Blood tests yes, VB! Immunity, yes!! Selig, NO! Hall of Fame, NO! Chalk it up as a tainted and dark era of MLB and let's move on.

One positive that could come from this, if the research allows, is that we may have designed a newer and more effective cortzone, HGH. How many players from the turn of the century to the 60's ever thought that one day they'd be shooting cortozone into themselves to get them through an injury. Back then it was take two(10) Bufferins and grit yer teeth, or chew on some leather. Seems archaic now, and so doesn't cortozone when faced with this wonder drug, HGH when administered under medical supervision and available to all teams and all players on an equal and need to use basis? Friend or foe? Only time will tell.......................and only time will heal this current dilemma before us.

[Mike P]

In the end, it all boils down to the question that Roger doesn't have a good answer for--why is McNamee telling the truth about shooting Pettite in the ass, and lying about Clemens?

[BigFish]

Originally Posted by Strike_King

He was sweating bullets,kept looking at the floor and was blinking eyes like crazy. How could he have no idea about Petite?Your counsel should have advised you not to do this interview.Watch his eyes after he answers questions - straight down.Would love to have gotten the uncut version of the interview......
"I was eatin' Vioxx like it was skittles!"
He was probably eating mcnuggets like they were skittles too.
"I've trained hard my entire career" - except the last three years in Boston.

Maybe its just me but I never saw him look at the floor once......and did not notice him blinking any more than someone needs to blink? Sweating.....them lights is hot!

[Squid kids Dad]

Do you believe Barry Bonds also???