Fall Run, Late October & A Full Moon

[JFigliuolo]

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[eelman]

Do you have to be carefull who you tell what? yes to a point..but more than a few things happened this year that puts things in perspective..you all know what they are...life is to short..I want to see people succed..I do not have a son or anyone else to pass along what I have learned in the surf to...I also realize that the reason most wont tell you is that they want to remain "on top" I was there at one point also, I know, its not that giving up the spot in and of itself is the problem...the truth is the fear that someone elses eel will in that water will land bigger and better than you...it happens, its competition all the way....there is a point to the crowd factor but still, when someone asks me nicely now I tell them, want to se the catch a nice fish...it comes with age I guess, the loss of friends, the maturity to realize its only a fish and yes to be honest a change I have made from surf to boat, I learned alot in the surf, if I can help a young guy who has the stamina and will power to stomp the suds all night...I dont mind pointing them in the right direction...

And I have done the same thiong in the boat also...But whats funny is that if you know where I fished in the surf then you know where I am boat fishing , same places just from the other side....Its only a fish...I have had my share without a doubt...after a 50 and a 60 this year..I am blesed (or cursed).I just dont care anymore and I dont need to...I am not "hunting" anything anymore, just fishing for the pure love of the sport.

[piemma]

Well said Bill. I didn't see anything in your posts that constituted a "spot burn". The way the Fall run has gone, it's all conjecture anyway. DZ, summed it up. "The fish will be where the food is".

[bart]

if you still fished the surf you wouldn't be so inclined to hand out info. if i recall correctly the last time you got into fish at one of said spots in Nov. you took pics, posted them online thinking no one would recognize the spot, then got all pissy when 10 trucks were in the lot before you got there. so don't say you want people to be successful....

and you obviously don't have any sympathy for the guys that regularly fish those spots. i'm sure they want a whole new group of guys heading out there? if you still fished in your old haunts and someone said spot X cleans up after an easterly blow and to concentrate their efforts there for the next 2 weeks, you wouldn't be too happy.....

[eelman]

Originally Posted by bart

if you still fished the surf you wouldn't be so inclined to hand out info. if i recall correctly the last time you got into fish at one of said spots in Nov. you took pics, posted them online thinking no one would recognize the spot, then got all pissy when 10 trucks were in the lot before you got there. so don't say you want people to be successful....

and you obviously don't have any sympathy for the guys that regularly fish those spots. i'm sure they want a whole new group of guys heading out there? if you still fished in your old haunts and someone said spot X cleans up after an easterly blow and to concentrate their efforts there for the next 2 weeks, you wouldn't be too happy.....

well, bart, that was then and that was 3 years ago or was it 2? whatever but what you state here is your opinion and we all know what opinions are like.........I will say what I want, when I want, and to whom I want, noboby owns anything, and most of those spots I fished before most of the people here were out of high school..So thats that..america, its a free country...People died for that...public spots are public spots...it is what it is...And I dont really care what anyone thinks at all......

I do still fish the surf only from my boat.........................


No go put the time in and fish those spots!

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

No go put the time in and fish those spots!

With eels.

[bart]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

well, bart, that was then and that was 3 years ago or was it 2? whatever but what you state here is your opinion and we all know what opinions are like.........I will say what I want, when I want, and to whom I want, noboby owns anything, and most of those spots I fished before most of the people here were out of high school..So thats that..america, its a free country...People died for that...public spots are public spots...it is what it is...And I dont really care what anyone thinks at all......

I do still fish the surf only from my boat.........................

whatever. you can preach all that crap you want. fact is, if you were still IN the surf, fishing those same spots, you wouldn't be broadcasting prime tides and conditions over the internet, especially when it gets down to crunch time. and no doubt about it you'd be pissed if you were invaded by a bunch of spot-chasers....

[luds]

[SAXATILUS]

Come on now, give me a break. #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& did not burn anything. It seems whenever he posts someone always has to get thier panties in a bunch. I think for the most part, some of you dudes are just jealous of his accomplishments. Lets face it the guy certainly knows his s#*t and I for one would love to hear what he has to say more often. No wonder we dont here from him that much, someones always getting in his face. Pathetic.

[bloocrab]

.....I know, I know.....but I don't want to start another "SPOT" thread.

I just wanted to share my thoughts with Mr. Bill,,, it's not directed at anyone but everyone.

You know, I never really chime in on spot talk......but IMHO - - Spots should be discussed with FRIENDS, not a community on the internet, no matter who you are or who you think you are, I'm against it 100%.

Sure /// you want to teach somebody technique/practices/theories/anything fishing related other than spots....sure///TELL ALL...but spots I don't know , just because someone is "reborn" doesn't mean they should blow things up for others who still feel spots are shared with friends//NOT keyboard communities. And I'm NOT saying you're blowing things up Mr. Bill, you weren't too specific but CHIT happens, and you know that - - How many people read these posts and how many people & types of people does it take to ruin a spot ??? You NEVER know who you're sharing with on the internet....remember that.

How many guys can the short wall support? OK, scenario...I hit them good there last night, I post about it,,,, 15 guys out of 100 that read the post go there the very next night......how great is that? I'm not feeding people who want to learn, I'm actually feeding people who are too lazy to search.....why don't people generalize??? ie: The Short Wall = Point Judith

Obviously because the fish were at the short wall last night DOESN'T mean they're going to be there the next night.......but they're probably still in the Point Judith area so you're not misleading anyone...but you're also NOT pointing to a certain rock.

Sure, I love to fish...almost as much as I love to catch. But I'm happy just fishing......I realize more and more that when I'm alone and into heavy action, lately.... I find myself wishing a fishing FRIEND was with me, someone to share in the fun...so sharing something like a spot with a friend (someone who'd do it for you) is GREAT!! Sharing spots with the internet community is NOT teaching anything.....it's more like a virtual guide. Try here first, here second, then follow the tide here next ///etc/etc/etc.../????Where's the gain in that? That's just feeding slackers in my opinion.

Call me selfish.....but when me and Goose or Milo or anyone else I consider a FRIEND, go fishing......I'd prefer it that we were the only ones at that spot.........fish or no fish//it's always a good time/with good company. Posting spots on the internet doesn't serve any purpose other than ??? What??? ?What is the reason for posting spots?? Fish swim///and now fish are on bait/forget resident fish/find the bait = find the fish.....there's your spot of the week.

Do you have to be carefull who you tell what? yes to a point..

The problem with that is you only know that "point" when it's too late.

Again, this ain't my site...I'm a member at will, I'm just sharing my thoughts /// not looking for enemies, Lord knows I have enough of them already. ...and Mr. Bill, this isn't directed at you so don't take it personally....you and anyone else can do anything they want on here, post spots/post fish/whatever....just sharing my thoughts